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Old 10-04-2008, 06:56 PM
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Get real. Obama is far more popular than Bush, Clinton, Kerry, or Gore. And since he's black he makes for a very inspirational leader for troubled who might have strikes of various kinds against them.

Obama is just the first extremely popular political figure we've seen in a generation.

Don't freak out. It will pass.
No one's freaking out. So dont "exaggerate", to use your word.

If Obama is "far more popular" during this campaign season than they were, as you say, why is he only leading in the polls by 5-6 points nationally? Why isnt he leading by 15-20 points?

How about Reagan....In 1984, Reagan in a huge landslide, getting 59% of the vote, and winning 49 out of 50 states, something we know Obama will not do. Did you see any pro-Reagan youth groups singing songs praising him?

There have been popular presidential candidates before , who won in a much bigger landslide than Obama would if he wins in November. But the larger point, which you seem to be missing or overlooking, is not who's popular by how many points... it is the fact that man has been made into a "political savior" more than any presidential candidate in recent memory. And people ascribe to him abilities and expectations far beyond anything indicated by his political experience. Some of his own supporters have repeatedly said, he's not just a man, but he's "a movement"... or at least someone on the leading edge of a movement. To me this is all ridiculous, and shows the gullibility of up to 1/2 the electorate.

When it gets to the point people are having youth groups singing about this man's "promise" and ability to change America and the world, then that's a bit much for me. Anyway, I'm convinced that the American sheeple are deceived, aided by a compliant media. This man should be nowhere near beign this close to being president. But people are more moved by soaring rhetoric and oratory than true substance.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:01 PM
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:03 PM
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And since he's black he makes for a very inspirational leader for troubled who might have strikes of various kinds against them.

Obama is just the first extremely popular political figure we've seen in a generation.
PS...
His "inspirational" value to the black community is a fairly small part of the overall picture anyway.
Most of the people hailing and praising this guy are not even black anyway, in case you havent noticed...

And blacks weren't the first to jump on the Obama train. Liberal whites were. He faced a lot of skepticism from many American blacks in the earlier stages of his campaign.The black community originally was giving most of its support to Hillary Clinton (wife of "the first black president" ) until Obama won the Iowa caucuses and showed he was for real.

The wide support he has as being a "transformational leader" goes beyond black Americans, and even beyond America's shores.... even though all he is is rhetoric and promise, with zero significant accomplishments to really merit such a high level of expectations.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:04 PM
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How does popularity excuse this kind of stuff?

One candidate is always going to be more popular than the other and with the Medias help.
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I think these kids are just inspired by a popular modern black leader.

I'd like to know the full story behind what's in this video. It looks like these kids might be in some form of military school for troubled black youth (or in JROTC). They may have been challenged by the cadre to put together an exhibition routine to express their life goals and the inspiration they've drawn from a prominent black leader....and right now the most prominent black leader happens to be Obama.

I think the real psychosis can be found in the minds of those who would exaggerate what these kids are doing.

I am with you.

I see NOTHING wrong with this. The fact is, Sen. Obama's candidacy for President is very inspiring to a variety of people-- including young Black males.


"YES WE CAN!"

I'm glad they are inspired to go beyond just allowing themselves to become another statistic.
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How does popularity excuse this kind of stuff?

One candidate is always going to be more popular than the other and with the Medias help.
What is so concerning about this? Seriously, what's the alarm for? I PROMISE to be as objective as possible.
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PS...
His "inspirational" value to the black community is a fairly small part of the overall picture anyway.
Most of the people hailing and praising this guy are not even black anyway, in case you havent noticed...

And blacks weren't the first to jump on the Obama train. Liberal whites were. He faced a lot of skepticism from many American blacks in the earlier stages of his campaign.The black community originally was giving most of its support to Hillary Clinton (wife of "the first black president" ) until Obama won the Iowa caucuses and showed he was for real.

The wide support he has as being a "transformational leader" goes beyond black Americans, and even beyond America's shores.... even though all he is is rhetoric and promise, with zero significant accomplishments to really merit such a high level of expectations.
yeah did you hear what jessie Jackson said of Obama? Insane. BTW Biden his VP running mate said Obama was not qualified to be president before he was ever chosen as a running mate.
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I am with you.

I see NOTHING wrong with this. The fact is, Sen. Obama's candidacy for President is very inspiring to a variety of people-- including young Black males.


"YES WE CAN!"

I'm glad they are inspired to go beyond just allowing themselves to become another statistic.
lol...they are not just saying "yes we can"..now had they said "Because of Jesus I can be....." Id be all for that. But they are attributing much more to Obama than Obama deserves credit for
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What is so concerning about this? Seriously, what's the alarm for? I PROMISE to be as objective as possible.
Did you watch the Video and listen to what they said about Obama?
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You don't find this a little cultic? Because of Obama?
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