The polls and news show that people trust the Democrats on the economy more than the Republicans.
I've asked so many people and they say they don't know why.
Aside from the "give me welfare mentality", what are the other reasons? Anyone know?
Ferd? Is it a left over thought from LBJ?
Because the Repubs were the poor saps with a president in the white house when all hell broke loose and the Dems and media capitalize on it never ever really examining how the Dems contributed...
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My short answer is that people are idiots. As a group, I mean, not necessarily individual people. But the aggregate result of all the individual decisions for presidential elections shows this.
If the economy is fine, the bleating electorate keeps the status quo, either giving a second term or maintaining the party of the outgoing president. If the economy is troublesome, they blame the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania.
Never you mind that spending originates in the congress, or that it usually takes more than 4 years for the results of new economic policies to be evident. That is just too much thinking for your average voter. They don't have time to read up on this because they haven't finished this month's People magazine.
In this particular instance, President Bush created an enormous entitlement program, and never once vetoed a spending bill. However, I harbor suspicion that more people will vote against his party because of the price of gasoline, or the way he pronounces 'nuclear,' than either of those.
As a country, we have lost our ability to think clearly and to use logic to accurately perceive cause-and-effect relationships. I blame union-controlled government schools, and the apathy that accompanies abundance. People, as a group, behave much more like sheep than sentient individuals. Easily alarmed, easily stampeded and panicked, and always looking for a strong, firm hand to lead us to "safety."
People are idiots.
But not you, of course.
Good post. I totally agree and especially with the words in bold!
What people don't realize is how many RICH Democrats there are.
LOL! That's what really gets me. They were criticizing McCain's homes and cars, but didn't look at the Democrat homes in the billions and their cars as well.
But I think I might just vote Democrat and here is why!!! Hehehehe!
I read that when policy changes it takes until the next presidency to realize the results. Thus, Clinton was enjoying the changes from Reagan and Bush is realizing the results from Clinton.
Would that be correct?
No. I work for the local government as an Account Reconciler and we saw some very drastic changes within a year, especially after CDBG funding was cut to facilitate tax cuts.
Each side loves that argument so that they can blame the president before them.
No. I work for the local government as an Account Reconciler and we saw some very drastic changes within a year, especially after CDBG funding was cut to facilitate tax cuts.
Each side loves that argument so that they can blame the president before them.
Thanks for the response. I agree with you on the first point, which brings in Ferd's previous comment on the issue - we see some rollover and some instant change. I think it's both. To a large degree, IMO, it would make a lot of sense that some policies from a previous Administration would bleed into the next.
One example would be the war in Iraq. Obama is trying to stay on point with it being a mistake. McCain takes it further to say that when a new Administration comes into power the issue and debate will not be "why it was a mistake". The issue will be "how we leave, when we leave and what we leave behind."
McCain is thinking presidental. Obama is whining. Just had to add that.
I don't think that holds too much water for this situation. Furthermore, the recession under Bush 1, was that caused by Reagan policies, or was it Carter's fault?
I do think it is interesting that at the end of the Reagan years, you had the S&L situation.
At the end of Bush 1 years, we had a recession. He promised no new taxes and then raised taxes-- thus earning my economic distrust.
Throughout the Bush 2 years, we've had 2 or 3 recessions or significant economic downturns, not including this current "dire" mess.
It seems to me that if you leave the Republicans in power too long, we have financial meltdown. However, I do think we would see the same phenomenon if Democrats are left in office too long. America is unique that way.
that isnt exactly accurate. 2000 recession was under clinton.
the stock market took a huge hit after 9/11 and growth was slow but sustained. now we are at the beginnings of a recession. (8 years after the last one)
in addition to policy having impact, the fact is economies have proven to be cyclical. you dont always exapand. there are always retractions.
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that isnt exactly accurate. 2000 recession was under clinton.
the stock market took a huge hit after 9/11 and growth was slow but sustained. now we are at the beginnings of a recession. (8 years after the last one)
in addition to policy having impact, the fact is economies have proven to be cyclical. you dont always exapand. there are always retractions.
Alan Greenspan was quoted today as saying that he thinks the economy will get much better, much quicker than what folks are suggesting.
He went on to say something to the affect that this mess was a once in a century situation.
If what he is saying is true, and I actually do trust his opinions, then it makes me question the "necessity" for a govt bail out in the first place!
I think the bail out is bad news, in ways we haven't even thought of or seen yet.
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I don't think that holds too much water for this situation. Furthermore, the recession under Bush 1, was that caused by Reagan policies, or was it Carter's fault?
I do think it is interesting that at the end of the Reagan years, you had the S&L situation.
At the end of Bush 1 years, we had a recession. He promised no new taxes and then raised taxes-- thus earning my economic distrust.
Throughout the Bush 2 years, we've had 2 or 3 recessions or significant economic downturns, not including this current "dire" mess.
It seems to me that if you leave the Republicans in power too long, we have financial meltdown. However, I do think we would see the same phenomenon if Democrats are left in office too long. America is unique that way.
The power and unlimited source of funds (you the tax payer) makes them drunk over time
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Alan Greenspan was quoted today as saying that he thinks the economy will get much better, much quicker than what folks are suggesting.
He went on to say something to the affect that this mess was a once in a century situation.
If what he is saying is true, and I actually do trust his opinions, then it makes me question the "necessity" for a govt bail out in the first place!
I think the bail out is bad news, in ways we haven't even thought of or seen yet.
the bail out is bad news...it rewards bad business practices and behavior plus...when YOUR finances take a nose dive where is the Federal government to give YOU a bailout (not a hand out)? Crazy! But worse is that this is not a bailout but a pork barrel hand over of your tax dollars to stuff that goes beyond just banks and lender
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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