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09-01-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
"ha ha LOL"??
1...What's so funny?
2... Fox didnt "break the story". The Palin family issued a statement to the news media on this.
Perhaps the original poster of this thread saw it first on Fox, but the announcement was issued by the McCain campaign to all of the news media at the same time.
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Thank you.
I didn't say that Fox "broke the story." I said that Fox ran a "breaking news report." Big difference. LOL!!!! The Palin family/McCain campaign broke the story.
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09-01-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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That IS exactly what he said. He may have meant something slightly different, as you are inferring, but he did say:
"Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old," he said. "I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."
In context, it sounds more like he doesn't want to see them bearing the consequences of their actions, if they don't have to. Or, at least, not forced by the government to bear those consequences.
My disagreement with him, even using your spin on his comments, would be twofold:
First, consequences are not always a bad thing, and we don't compound bad choices by adding more bad choices (murder). It is wrong to make immoral choices in order to avoid the consequences of previous bad behavior. (Obviously immoral choices are always immoral, but many liberals act as if there are certain circumstances in which it is excusable.) I do NOT want to teach my children to avoid the consequences of their bad behavior, but rather to FACE the consequences. So I disagree with him as a parent.
Secondly, the government SHOULD deny citizens the right or choice to commit criminal acts, such as murder. Which means...I disagree with Mr. Obama's stance on government involvement.
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You, madam, are simply awesome!
Frankly, Obama's fight to prevent abortion clinics from being required to provide care for aborted babies that were inadvertently born alive tells me all I need to know about him. If Obama believes babies are a punishment, does he believe it is all right for men to choose abortions? Would Obama have indicted Scott Peterson?
It is one thing to ignore this issue.
It is another to jump right in there and fight and support the wholesale slaughter of the innocent.
I'll say it again: dirtbag is a very kind term.
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09-01-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
I think McCain is just like Bush & Co. He's just out to manipulate mindless religionists who will buy his lies and vote for him. Then he'll ignore all the issues that matter to us and help his buddies get rich while our families languish begging and pleading for jobs and health care.
I don't trust Obama much more than I trust McCain....but I think his judgment in his VP pick illustrates a desire to strengthen his office and protect the US in time of crisis. McCain's choice is stupid. There are far more Republicans that would have made better choices.
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09-01-2008, 09:19 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
And if this were one of Obama's daughters....this would be a witch hunt and every one of you know it.
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09-01-2008, 09:23 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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You, madam, are simply awesome!
Frankly, Obama's fight to prevent abortion clinics from being required to provide care for aborted babies that were inadvertently born alive tells me all I need to know about him. If Obama believes babies are a punishment, does he believe it is all right for men to choose abortions? Would Obama have indicted Scott Peterson?
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I agree. That alone is enough to make anyone (except Aquila, apparently) sick to their stomach. It is a grievously immoral mindset and severe lack of character.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
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09-01-2008, 09:24 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I think McCain is just like Bush & Co. He's just out to manipulate mindless religionists who will buy his lies and vote for him. Then he'll ignore all the issues that matter to us and help his buddies get rich while our families languish begging and pleading for jobs and health care.
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I can't believe you make statements like the one above, and then complain about people insulting you. It really baffles me.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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09-01-2008, 09:34 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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So's McCain. They're all dirt bags. At least Obama has the human decency to stay with his wife and kids. McCain is a scum bag that abandoned his FAMILY. Can't do that bro. I know Obama's a liberal and I disagree with him on some things....but he's faithful to family. I respect that far more than McCain's dead beat example of a husband and father. And frankly, he's admitted that it was his greatest moral failure. And McCain picking Mrs. Pretty Pentecostal is the most blatant pander on earth.
I think, judging by his track record, that he just enjoys having power over women half his age.
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I realize they are both dirt/scum bags. My only major concern, honestly, is who will be appointing the next Supreme Court Justices.
Adultery is real bad. Abortion is.. to me.. much worse.
Hussein O. and McCain are both dirt bags, and I know it sounds simple.... But....One of these do not support killing babies which are made in the image of our Lord.
If Hussein O. is elected, it will probably be what America deserves. I have have VERY VERY HUGE feelings against abortion. And anyone who can vote for an anti-lifer is not my kind of folk. So.... abortion (Hussein O.) supporters from here on out will probably be on my ignore list.
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09-01-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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I can't believe you make statements like the one above, and then complain about people insulting you. It really baffles me.
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He refers to people as dirtbags, mindless religionists, scumbags, etc. but he's sensitive to people making "personal insults" toward him.
Sometimes I wonder what the Lord thinks when he sees the stuff some of his children post on forums such as this.
I think we'd all do well to keep in mind Matthew 12:36: "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned," (Matt. 12:36).
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09-01-2008, 09:45 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
So much for pro-abstinence only education. That worked out well ...
Unfortunately this issue can't be touched by the Obama campaign without McCain's imps crying foul. However, if the roles were reversed and a Democratic candidate's daughter was knocked up, you can be sure Rush, Hannity and the rest of the right-sided media would be making an issue of this.
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09-01-2008, 09:46 PM
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Re: Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
He refers to people as dirtbags, mindless religionists, scumbags, etc. but he's sensitive to people making "personal insults" toward him.
Sometimes I wonder what the Lord thinks when he sees the stuff some of his children post on forums such as this.
I think we'd all do well to keep in mind Matthew 12:36: "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned," (Matt. 12:36).
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Jesus called a women a dog. I wonder if she had a lower morals then Hussein.
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