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08-01-2008, 07:58 AM
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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You pegged me. I also, sang daily renditions of "It's a small world after all" while plowing with the mules.
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When we went to Disneyland when my daughter was 5 years old "It's A Smal World" was her favorite attraction. She made us go through it twice.
My ears were bleeding and I was just about insane after the second time through. If I had heard that song in one more language I think I would have snapped and have run shrieking from the attraction.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-01-2008, 08:07 AM
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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When we went to Disneyland when my daughter was 5 years old "It's A Smal World" was her favorite attraction. She made us go through it twice.
My ears were bleeding and I was just about insane after the second time through. If I had heard that song in one more language I think I would have snapped and have run shrieking from the attraction. 
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I had the exact same experience!
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08-01-2008, 08:16 AM
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Hello AFF!
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
That would be a big nega-tory rubber duck!
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08-01-2008, 08:26 AM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.
I have observed some conservatives are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more liberated than they are themselves.
As a conservative:
1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more liberal lifestyle?
2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in slacks and earrings, or a man in shorts
worships God with you at church?
3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?
4. Are you content to show your more conservative lifestyle as appealing, or do you feel compelled to inform them they are mislead?
Disclaimer: Concerning dress and adornment my family and I live quite conservatively - even by UPC standards. My wife and children have long hair (even uncut) and they do wear skirts rather than pants. We wear very little jewelry and my own ears aren't pierced etc... But we do not look down on others - niether in word or practice. We have had many discussions in our community about our modest dress (partly due to the TV show we were part of) but never with the attitude of superiority because of our choices.
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I had a problem with a UPC preacher allowing a man to preach with hair down to his shoulders. I think it's different with people on the platform as it is with people in the congregation though.
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08-01-2008, 09:09 AM
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
No.
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08-01-2008, 10:05 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
I know sweet conservatives and overbearing conservatives...I know sweet liberals and overbearing liberals the only ones that Incite a Negative Response in me is someone that is always on the defensive...no matter what camp they are in.
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08-01-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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I know sweet conservatives and overbearing conservatives...I know sweet liberals and overbearing liberals the only ones that Incite a Negative Response in me is someone that is always on the defensive...no matter what camp they are in.
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Or on the "offensive"!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-01-2008, 10:21 AM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Or on the "offensive"!
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I think you proved her point.
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08-01-2008, 10:26 AM
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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I think you proved her point. 
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LOL!!! It works both ways (I am speaking from the standpoint of personal interaction);
1. Conservative On Offense - Constantly looking around judging other Pentecostals and people in general to see if they live up to their particular dress code and perception of "holiness"
2. Lib on Offense - Constantly engaging Pentecostals more conservative than themself in discusions aimed toward changing the conservative persons view on corporate legalism, dress code,etc.
Both are bad to the bone!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-01-2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
What happened to all the conservatives? I thought they were coming back in droves?
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