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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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How are clams, crabs, lobster, marlins, rabbits, oysters, sharks, ostrich, shrimp, catfish or turtles health hazards to eat anymore than eating tuna or bass?
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The Rabbi says that these are not kosher.
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07-29-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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Notice per my other scriptures in Ezek and Jeremiah that the LAW is seen outside of the Mosaic "Covenant" The new covenant would continue the law and would be different than the old as it would be on our hearts instead of on stone and it would contain the atonement of Christ! It may have changed a little in the sense of application from type to realization but besides that the scripture is clear that we would due his commandments and statutes etc...
Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and a new spirit (WHICH IS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST THE LIVING TORAH)I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh,
Eze 11:20 that they may walk in my statutes and keep my rules and obey them. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 11:21 But as for those whose heart goes after their detestable things and their abominations, I will bring their deeds upon their own heads, declares the Lord GOD."
Eze 36:26 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. ( which is the living Torah, Jesus Christ)
Eze 36:27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.
Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
Jer 31:32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.
Jer 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." |
No I don't see that. Please explain. I don't see how there the word LAW was not synonymous with the Covenant. In fact it seems to be synonymous since he says he makes a new covenant and then put's his laws IN our heart
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07-29-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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The Rabbi says that these are not kosher.
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But how are they NOT healthy? Kosher just means legal or allowed under the law
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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07-29-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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But how are they NOT healthy? Kosher just means legal or allowed under the law
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I don't know... I can really go for some turtle soup bout now. As Dora would say, delicioso.
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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How are clams, crabs, lobster, marlins, rabbits, oysters, sharks, ostrich, shrimp, catfish or turtles health hazards to eat anymore than eating tuna or bass?
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Simple most are scavengers and are high in cholesterol not uncluding diseases that come from them.
They also contain his levels of toxin and mercury because they don't breath or relase toxins through the skin.
Also contain high level of parasitic activity that is not easily killed of.
These are just among a few things.
Do you believe the counsel of God is wise? God did not just make these up randomly just to bust up your BBQ! LOL!
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07-29-2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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Simple most are scavengers and are high in cholesterol not uncluding diseases that come from them.
They also contain his levels of toxin and mercury because they don't breath or relase toxins through the skin.
Also contain high level of parasitic activity that is not easily killed of.
These are just among a few things.
Do you believe the counsel of God is wise? God did not just make these up randomly just to bust up your BBQ! LOL!
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BEEF is high in cholesterol! All fat is high in cholesterol. They did not have high levels of toxins in the OT. Even TUNA has high levels of mercury! I don't think you can prove your claims here. I ask again where in the bible does it say the food laws were about health?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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07-29-2008, 02:54 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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Simple most are scavengers and are high in cholesterol not uncluding diseases that come from them.
They also contain his levels of toxin and mercury because they don't breath or relase toxins through the skin.
Also contain high level of parasitic activity that is not easily killed of.
These are just among a few things.
Do you believe the counsel of God is wise? God did not just make these up randomly just to bust up your BBQ! LOL!
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BTW what do you mean scavengers? What's bad about being an ocean scavenger. Sharks aren't scavengers
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-29-2008, 02:55 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
In my O, the food laws were a form of separation from uncleanliness. I try to explain to my friends time and time again, the OT is a shadow of the new. In the OT they did things in a physical sense that we use to make spiritual applications.
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07-29-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
In my O, the food laws were a form of separation from uncleanliness. I try to explain to my friends time and time again, the OT is a shadow of the new. In the OT they did things in a physical sense that we use to make spiritual applications.
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Why did God require Jewish men to grow their side locks long? Health reasons?
Why could they not mix wool and other fabrics? health reasons? It was about separation, being different. It was about types and shadows...learning and teaching the idea of being unclean and clean
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-29-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: Scriptural reference in the OT of the LAW bein
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Why did God require Jewish men to grow their side locks long? Health reasons?
Why could they not mix wool and other fabrics? health reasons? It was about separation, being different. It was about types and shadows...learning and teaching the idea of being unclean and clean
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Right, I think we're somewhat on the same page.
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