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07-26-2008, 11:43 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Your post is out of line, and offensive, and is just as judgmental as the ones you have insinuated as being judgmental. I have reported it.
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You have a right to your opinion and to report the post. I disagree with you.
I also have a right to mine. Report all you want, that is what the button is for.
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07-26-2008, 11:44 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
I'd love to get into all of this, yet AGAIN, but honestly, I just don't have the time. I am just too busy trying to help folks find Jesus, but they trinitarians or not. But I will say this: I'd take a surrendered trinitarian ANY day over a self-righteous, bigoted, holier than thou oneness person who thinks everyone else is going to hell who doesn't believe like they do. And I think Jesus would as well. After all, the scripture states that the Publican went home justified and the Pharisee apparently didn't.
Those Pharisaical robes seems to be flapping in the breeze these days just as much as the gums, IMO.  |
Wow, you said a mouthful man...you know some of us here still believe those steps right? This is uglier than you in a pair of speedos....wow
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07-26-2008, 11:45 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Do you believe in the light doctrine, PP?
What about those Trinitarians who don't hear the Oneness message?
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I beleive PP has retired for the night so you will have to settle right now for my take.
My light doctrine is;
When you leave the room TURN OUT THE LIGHT!!!!! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MY ELECTRIC BILL IS??????
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 11:45 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
You and others are ASSUMING that God, without a doubt, has revealed the oneness to them and that they have rejected it. That is a huge assumption and one that cannot be proven.
God absolutely, could give the entire trinitarian movement a revelation of His oneness, but for some reason hasn't done that. If it were as important to Him as it is to us, it would have been done a long time ago. I don't believe that God is that stingy, stupid or mean.
He is far more concerned about someone surrendering to Him than He is about them being able to pass a doctrinal test on the godhead. |
No ASSUMING here. The bible states very plainly that the Holy Ghost WILL lead you into ALL TRUTH. ALL TRUTH includes water baptism in Jesus name and the Oneness of God, DOESN'T IT??????????
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07-26-2008, 11:46 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
Wow, you said a mouthful man...you know some of us here still believe those steps right? This is uglier than you in a pair of speedos....wow
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I am going to have to check the rules but I think you can be banned for painting this word picture!!!! 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 11:46 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
No ASSUMING here. The bible states very plainly that the Holy Ghost WILL lead you into ALL TRUTH.ALL TRUTH includes water baptism in Jesus name and the Oneness of God, DOESN"T IT??????????
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So, StMatthew, do you now have all truth, and are you the only one's who have this all truth?
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07-26-2008, 11:46 PM
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Holy Unto The Lord
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by CC1
I am going to have to check the rules but I think you can be banned for painting this word picture!!!! |
There is one worse...
Me in a pair of speedos.
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07-26-2008, 11:46 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
I respectfully disagree. To be able to do so would imply that god was without a witness during that entire time, in which he was not. God had a witness during that time, and it was evident through the events which took place of the Inquisition. Because He had a witness, we cannot assume that all were lost. Nor can we assume all received the revelation of Jesus name baptism.
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You are still missing the point then. Your argument goes "baptism is not salvational because if it was for 1600 years with out baptism in jesus name billios went to hell"
Because you are asserting there was no baptism in jesus name when you just can NOT prove that.
yet when I use your argument for grace alone by faith alone which no church taught until Luther your argument is there has to have been some (which is a far cry from billions) because God had to have a witness.
But YOUR witness argument is exactly the same argument many OPs use to declare there must have been a Jesus name Pentecostal church all those years even though history does not record it all that time.
In other words the God's witness theory makes your intial assertion inconsistant
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-26-2008, 11:47 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by CC1
I beleive PP has retired for the night so you will have to settle right now for my take.
My light doctrine is;
When you leave the room TURN OUT THE LIGHT!!!!! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MY ELECTRIC BILL IS??????
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07-26-2008, 11:49 PM
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Holy Unto The Lord
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You are still missing the point then. Your argument goes "baptism is not salvational because if it was for 1600 years with out baptism in jesus name billios went to hell"
Because you are asserting there was no baptism in jesus name when you just can NOT prove that.
yet when I use your argument for grace alone by faith alone which no church taught until Luther your argument is there has to have been some (which is a far cry from billions) because God had to have a witness.
But YOUR witness argument is exactly the same argument many OPs use to declare there must have been a Jesus name Pentecostal church all those years even though history does not record it all that time.
In other words the God's witness theory makes your intial assertion inconsistant
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Prax, we will have to continue this tomorrow. Hopefully, I will be feeling better to do this. Just pray for me.
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