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07-26-2008, 09:42 PM
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Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Conference?
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07-26-2008, 09:48 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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In 1913, during the Assembly Of God General Assembly, a great controversy arose regarding the so-called "new issue" that water baptism was to be administered in "the Name of Jesus Christ" rather than in "the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." The majority of the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World community accepted both the liturgical change and a "Jesus Name" or Oneness approach to understanding God.
Among those who accepted the Oneness doctrine in the early period was Elder Garfield Thomas Haywood, an African American minister from Indianapolis, who pastored a very successful Pentecostal church on Indianapolis that had, in 1913, between 400-500 members. The racial make up of the congregation was about 50% African American and 50% white. The name of the church was Christ Temple Apostolic Faith Assembly.
Christ Temple was one of the largest Pentecostal churches and congregations in the world. Bishop Haywood was rebaptized in the name of Jesus in approximately 1913. Subsequently, he rebaptized his entire congregation.
I wonder what Daniel would say about this?
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07-26-2008, 09:50 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
Gasp!
He has facial hair!
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07-26-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
I don't understand your point in all of this?
why wouldn't we have GT Haywood preach in our church
he was one of the early pioneers??
what's the controversy because of his facial hair ??
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07-26-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
I am not Daniel, but I would say that Bishop Haywood was a man when, he saw what was in the Bible about the correct mode of baptism, he obeyed it, and then brought his congregation into the same obedience. The fact remains that baptism is not salvational, because in order to do so would imply a man-made element outside the Cross to administer what the Cross gives biblically by faith.
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07-26-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
St. Mark,
When I was growing up none of the UPC churches I was in would have had a preacher with a mustache in the pulpit.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 09:54 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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St. Mark,
When I was growing up none of the UPC churches I was in would have had a preacher with a mustache in the pulpit.
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Yes, that is true for me too but some of them sort of gave a wink and
nod to the Blacks
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07-26-2008, 09:54 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Gasp!
He has facial hair!
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The powers that be would cite the passage in the Bible where Timothy was circumcised for the sake of ministering to those whom that was important to.
Using that passage and the "follow peace with all men" scripture, they would insist that he shaved before preaching at GC.
That's what I think would happen, JMHO.
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07-26-2008, 09:55 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Yes, that is true for me too but some of them sort of gave a wink and
nod to the Blacks
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Do you think the WPF or UPC would allow him to preach a conference message?
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07-26-2008, 09:55 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
I thought facial hair was one of the "old paths?"
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