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[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I also see you breezed past my post pointing out your "scenario" of a womans health being the issue here only represents a small fraction of abortions.

the VAST majority are simply for birth control. nice.

Small or not...if that were my wife I assure you the Government is still incapable of making that choice.

Women who choose abortion for birth control will have to live with the decision their entire lives and then face God in the judgment for it. They are not getting by. They will answer for how they used their freedom to choose.

If we are going to address the abortion issue we need to address it through churches and PRIVATE entities providing education and social services to women in crisis pregnancies. Private entities have done more to save more children from abortion than all the laws passed by the Government. The Government isn't the answer...it's part of the problem.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

The sword is in the hand of the state. The lawful execution of a criminal guilty of a capitol crime and the protecting of it's citizens are the states responsibilities.

And I continue by asking you....do you realistically believe the state will properly police and enforce laws against abortion??? How will the Government realistically police this issue and what will the Government do to violators?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The choice to murder or not is best left in the hands of individual murderer. The Government is incapable of properly defining those situations when it might be necessary, policing the issue, and penalizing violators.

Government isn't the answer. Churches and PRIVATE entities can best address the murder issue through providing education and social services

I tell you what the real answer is.

overturning Roe and rescuing America from Constitution hijacking really smart morons with black robes and then having a national discussion.

coming up with laws in the various states that reflect the majority of Americans.

I will not get what I want, but my Constitution will have been rescued.

THAT is the answer.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Small or not...if that were my wife I assure you the Government is still incapable of making that choice.

Women who choose abortion for birth control will have to live with the decision their entire lives and then face God in the judgment for it. They are not getting by. They will answer for how they used their freedom to choose.

If we are going to address the abortion issue we need to address it through churches and PRIVATE entities providing education and social services to women in crisis pregnancies. Private entities have done more to save more children from abortion than all the laws passed by the Government. The Government isn't the answer...it's part of the problem.

I agree and I think those who vote for abortion will be accountable as well.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Small or not...if that were my wife I assure you the Government is still incapable of making that choice.

Women who choose abortion for birth control will have to live with the decision their entire lives and then face God in the judgment for it. They are not getting by. They will answer for how they used their freedom to choose.

If we are going to address the abortion issue we need to address it through churches and PRIVATE entities providing education and social services to women in crisis pregnancies. Private entities have done more to save more children from abortion than all the laws passed by the Government. The Government isn't the answer...it's part of the problem.

To use your pragmatic reasoning, just for arguments sake, isn't it better to have a few-VERY FEW- women die than to have thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of babies die every year?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Small or not...if that were my wife I assure you the Government is still incapable of making that choice.

Women who choose abortion for birth control will have to live with the decision their entire lives and then face God in the judgment for it. They are not getting by. They will answer for how they used their freedom to choose.

If we are going to address the abortion issue we need to address it through churches and PRIVATE entities providing education and social services to women in crisis pregnancies. Private entities have done more to save more children from abortion than all the laws passed by the Government. The Government isn't the answer...it's part of the problem.

deep breath repeat mantra.... nobody is buying what your selling chris.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

As one who works in the 'baby' field I'm not sure that there is a need for abortion.

I gave you a real example. Doctors were divided on the possible outcome and the choice was left up to the couple. I think that's best. The Government is incapable of deciding what would be best in such situations. That means that the choice is best left in the hands of individual women and couples.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I tell you what the real answer is.

overturning Roe and rescuing America from Constitution hijacking really smart morons with black robes and then having a national discussion.

coming up with laws in the various states that reflect the majority of Americans.

I will not get what I want, but my Constitution will have been rescued.

THAT is the answer.

7 out of 9 were appointed by Republicans. The Court will never rule in favor of forcing women to give birth. They will always defer to placing the issue in the hands of individual women.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Ferd

deep breath repeat mantra.... nobody is buying what your selling chris.

I'm done. He can't seem to even comprehend how ridiculous his position is much less defend it. Like talking to a wall.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Aquila

And I continue by asking you....do you realistically believe the state will properly police and enforce laws against abortion??? How will the Government realistically police this issue and what will the Government do to violators?

Obviously it would take time and planning. We're arguing theories. They should do to violators what God's law prescribes.