Is the Media Unfair to McCain?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Bawwaahhh!!!!! Now that there is funny!

PS, i neither care what you think about me nor do i think you should be banned or infracted for the above.....


but lets be clear, YOU said you were pro choice. NOT ME. my opinion of what that means is by definition opinion and thus is not a lie as no fact has been misrepresented.

I cant help it if you have the ability to see "pro-choice" as one of the various anti-abortion positions.... you own it bro! Embrace yourself!

Ferd, lets say your wife and you are with child. The doctors find a cancerous mass in her uterus. Odds are that your wife will miscarry. The mass will consume nutrients that the child needs creating a high probability that if the child does survive, it will be profoundly deformed and handicapped. Carrying the child until she miscarries or carrying it to term could also prevent them from treating the cancerous mass, leaving a high probability that the cancer will spread and after the miscarriage or birth your wife will have few options for treatment and will most likely die. The doctors on staff are divided. One argues that she will most likely miscarry and aborting is preferable to treat the cancer. One doctor states that there is a chance that the child might be unaffected and carrying it to term or until miscarriage is a viable option and that there is a good chance that the cancer will not spread and they will be able to treat it after the child is born. Your wife has a choice to make...

Carry the child to term or until she miscarries....risking the spread of the cancer (possibly killing her) and sever deformity in the child.

Or carry the child to term and see if the cancer can be treated.

Do you want the two of you to make that choice (regardless of what you might choose to do) or the Government?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Rico

The conversation with you ends with this post. I feel like you have lied on me, said I think abortion is ok, and I am offended. Laugh about it all you want, but I am not going to post to you again, Ferd.

These people are professional slader artists Rico. There is no reasoning with them. They say that hate government....but want it to make what could be the most difficult decisions of our lives for us.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Ferd, lets say your wife and you are with child. The doctors find a cancerous mass in her uterus. Odds are that your wife will miscarry. The mass will consume nutrients that the child needs creating a high probability that if the child does survive, it will be profoundly deformed and handicapped. Carrying the child until she miscarries or carrying it to term could also prevent them from treating the cancerous mass, leaving a high probability that the cancer will spread and after the miscarriage or birth your wife will have few options for treatment and will most likely die. The doctors on staff are divided. One argues that she will most likely miscarry and aborting is preferable to treat the cancer. One doctor states that there is a chance that the child might be unaffected and carrying it to term or until miscarriage is a viable option and that there is a good chance that the cancer will not spread and they will be able to treat it after the child is born. Your wife has a choice to make...

Carry the child to term or until she miscarries....risking the spread of the cancer (possibly killing her) and sever deformity in the child.

Or carry the child to term and see if the cancer can be treated.

Do you want the two of you to make that choice (regardless of what you might choose to do) or the Government?

Where does God come into play? Did He create this life in His image?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Aquila

These people are professional slader artists Rico. There is no reasoning with them. They say that hate government....but want it to make what could be the most difficult decisions of our lives for us.

Who are 'these' people who slander? Names please.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Look, Im not trying to argue much more than the point that being pro-choice is not an Anti-abortion position...

That's stupid.

You're pro-gun rights. Are you pro-robbery?

[Rico]

Aquila, you are wasting your time, Brother. In their minds you think killing babies is just fine and have no right to call yourself a Christian. You can tell them all you want that you think abortion is wrong and they will tell you you think it's ok.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I said you are pro-choice and therefore support abortion. I believe it is disingenuious to say the above along with the statement that you think abortion is wrong.


sorry bro, you and Hillary Clinton agree with Barak Obama on the point. I disagree.

Its the same as saying you support the troops and at the same time say we have to get out of Iraq because we are killing innocents.

its a false choice. I am sorry you think I have lied on you. That didnt happen.

Yes, you lied on him.

You're for gun rights. I assume you support school shootings?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Where does God come into play? Did He create this life in His image?

Does God impose His will on anyone? Does the fact that he gave us free will count for anything?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esther

There is no way you can say you are for Pro Choice and against abortions. Pro Choice means the right to have an abortion!

That's like saying,

"There's no way a person can be against school shootings and support gun rights."

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Rico

Aquila, you are wasting your time, Brother. In their minds you think killing babies is just fine and have no right to call yourself a Christian. You can tell them all you want that you think abortion is wrong and they will tell you you think it's ok.

At least I offered an attempt at an exegetical argument for my position.