Is Homosexuality demon possesion or learned behavi

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Aquila

lol

I think some just listen to the talking points of the far Right. Those on the far right have nearly made it dogma that it's purely a choice. But as science discovers more and more how the homosexual brain chemistry reacts to pheromone and hormonal stimuli they are learning that in blind tests when exposed to same gender hormone, the brain becomes sexually awakened. Even if the gay person doesn't know if they are smelling male or female sweat.

On a scientific level it's fascinating. On a theological level it goes to show just how twisted this flesh is from the creator's original intention.

Here is why I bow out of these conversations. You are blatantly ignoring scripture and postulating that science trumps the written Word. When we begin to justify an abomination as being without choice we do serious injury to scripture.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by live4him

if this is true this is unbelievable, and absouletly weird, the brain becomes sexually awakened, it kinda makes since

Here's something interesting....

Department of Clinical Neuroscience, Karolinska University Hospital, 171 76 Stockholm, Sweden. ivanka.savic-berglund@neuro.ki.se

The testosterone derivative 4,16-androstadien-3-one (AND) and the estrogen-like steroid estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol (EST) are candidate compounds for human pheromones. AND is detected primarily in male sweat, whereas EST has been found in female urine. In a previous positron emission tomography study, we found that smelling AND and EST activated regions covering sexually dimorphic nuclei of the anterior hypothalamus, and that this activation was differentiated with respect to sex and compound. In the present study, the pattern of activation induced by AND and EST was compared among homosexual men, heterosexual men, and heterosexual women. In contrast to heterosexual men, and in congruence with heterosexual women, homosexual men displayed hypothalamic activation in response to AND. Maximal activation was observed in the medial preoptic area/anterior hypothalamus, which, according to animal studies, is highly involved in sexual behavior. As opposed to putative pheromones, common odors were processed similarly in all three groups of subjects and engaged only the olfactory brain (amygdala, piriform, orbitofrontal, and insular cortex). These findings show that our brain reacts differently to the two putative pheromones compared with common odors, and suggest a link between sexual orientation and hypothalamic neuronal processes.

PMID: 15883379 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

PMCID: PMC1129091

[live4him]

the old saying is "if you hang with the skunks you will smell like them", i do beleive that who you hang around with can be the problem and influence, because no matter the sin , it can jump from them to you, if ya let it

[live4him]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's something interesting....

this is to much- wow. this is interesting, i will have to read it more than once so i can comprehend it-lol, i know smells have alot to do with memories to, it triggers something in the brain, very interesting.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by rrford

Here is why I bow out of these conversations. You are blatantly ignoring scripture and postulating that science trumps the written Word. When we begin to justify an abomination as being without choice we do serious injury to scripture.

Huh? What he's saying makes perfect sense scripturally. He isn't making excuses for homosexuality in any way shape or form, Brother.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by rrford

Here is why I bow out of these conversations. You are blatantly ignoring scripture and postulating that science trumps the written Word. When we begin to justify an abomination as being without choice we do serious injury to scripture.

The action is still an abomination. The sinful condition may be rooted in their flesh. That's why sin of all types, including abominations are works of the flesh. It's in this nasty, sweaty, evil, vile, body of death we're walking around with.

I'm separating the act from the condition. In scientific studies my brain would react to female pheromone. Hey, that's cool right, I'm straight, you'd expect that. Guess what...if I choose to act on that attraction when with a woman who I'm not married to...that's a sin.

Same with gays. Their brains react to male hormone and pheromone. They're gay and many have always responded to same gender hormones and pheromones. Guess what...if they choose to act on that attraction when with someone of the same gender...that's an abomination.

It's not a matter of either or here. It's far more complex than that. The sinful inclination originates for some in the flesh, early in puberty when their hormones are kicking in to make massive biological changes. Ok, that's the flesh, desperately wicked and vile. Sin working in their member. In their flesh is no good thing. Now...they struggle with the attraction to the same gender. Do they stay faithful to God and pray for a healing? Hopefully. If they act on it they've committed an abomination. Then they need to repent of the abomination and get back where they can be healed.

And here's a heart breaking thing about this...they have to choose to love the Lord and remain faithful...even if he doesn't heal them. Yes, it would be a terribly lonely life. Yes, they will struggle with desires and thoughts we straight folks don't struggle with. But if they don't act on them, I firmly believe they will be saved though the "inclination" is there.

Straight people the same way. We are expected to remain faithful even if we don't ever marry. We will struggle with desires and thoughts gay people don't struggle with. But if we don't act on them, I firmly believe we will be saved though the inclination to have straight relations is there.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's something interesting....

Not sure I totally understood that, but it seems like they are saying homosexuals react to male scents in the same way a heterosexual woman does.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Rico

Not sure I totally understood that, but it seems like they are saying homosexuals react to male scents in the same way a heterosexual woman does.

Bingo.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Bingo.

Do you know where I could buy some of that stuff to spray on, so the wifey will find me even more irresistable than she does now?

[Aquila]

Imagine the damage we've done to these folks with the hatred and vitriol we've delivered to them.

It's like we're doctors with the only cure on earth for what they have...and when we see them...we throw stones at them because they're not well.

We need to help them pray and repent of sins committed...and stand with them for their healing and deliverance. Some will struggle, relapse, fall. Will we be there to catch them...or do we drop them and kick them while they're down?

Do we, the doctors, stone those in a dying world to whom we've been sent to heal?