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Old 07-03-2008, 11:12 PM
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I saw pretty suggestive stuff when we had Satellite. Most of them were on HGTV and since I could become a real cat if my husband looked, well......

The Dr. Pepper commercials are some I'm thinking of which would also be on Fox News.
I just resist the notion that TV is so uncontrollable but the internet is to be embraced...I guess the devil just let the latest technology slip through the loopholes.
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:14 PM
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I just resist the notion that TV is so uncontrollable but the internet is to be embraced...I guess the devil just let the latest technology slip through the loopholes.
I agree...oh well...
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:16 PM
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Really?! You mean the leaders were willing to stay in both orgs?!

I don't think so...

If you mean they were willing to allow folks to align with both, what sense would that mean?!

They make it clear on their website, in sermons preached, and in literature that they wish to fellowship with those who think like they do...that would not be the UPCI, or they wouldn't have left in the first place.
For a lot of licensed UPC pastors, the result of resolution 4 hasn't changed a thing in their churches - they still don't have TV and don't want it; but we can't say the same for others. You see there are those in the UPC that don't have TV, those that do, and those that will use resolution 4 as an excuse to get TV - not very consistent.

In the UPC we have those who have always obeyed the leadership above them and those who were pastors over them before they went into the ministry themselves; they have not removed the ancient landmarks that their fathers have set and they have not built those things that they once destroyed.

Either enforce church discipline for not obeying the ordinances or throw out the ordinances - which one is it going to be? How long halt ye between 2 opinions? How long do you want to stradle the fence? Its either lying by renewing one`s license and agreeing to abide by the minimum standard or being hypocritical for coming up with ordinances that one is not going to enforce.

My pastor still fellowships with those in the UPC so its not about shunning or disfellowshipping the whole organization - can the same be said from the UPC point of view?

My pastor just doesn't want to send his bible-quizzing saints to a national competition where the kids want to talk about and emmulate and play things that are on national cablevision.
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:21 PM
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For a lot of licensed UPC pastors, the result of resolution 4 hasn't changed a thing in their churches - they still don't have TV and don't want it; but we can't say the same for others. You see there are those in the UPC that don't have TV, those that do, and those that will use resolution 4 as an excuse to get TV - not very consistent.

In the UPC we have those who have always obeyed the leadership above them and those who were pastors over them before they went into the ministry themselves; they have not removed the ancient landmarks that their fathers have set and they have not built those things that they once destroyed.

Either enforce church discipline for not obeying the ordinances or throw out the ordinances - which one is it going to be? How long halt ye between 2 opinions? How long do you want to stradle the fence? Its either lying by renewing one`s license and agreeing to abide by the minimum standard or being hypocritical for coming up with ordinances that one is not going to enforce.

My pastor still fellowships with those in the UPC so its not about shunning or disfellowshipping the whole organization - can the same be said from the UPC point of view?

My pastor just doesn't want to send his bible-quizzing saints to a national competition where the kids want to talk about and emmulate and play things that are on national cablevision.
Wasn't resolution 4 specifically about TV advertising. What is your problem with that?
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:22 PM
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Concerning unity/disunity, i read the following awhile ago and found it interesting and could be an eye-opener for some..

http://apostoliccontender.blogspot.c...-tulsa-oh.html

So who broke the unity?
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:24 PM
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I just resist the notion that TV is so uncontrollable but the internet is to be embraced...I guess the devil just let the latest technology slip through the loopholes.
I'm not preaching against TV. The Internet relationship stuff is way too big for that!

I'm just saying that for normal viewing you have to be more careful with what comes next on the television. Just my experience.

I have only two forums I post on and two that I view, e-mail, various news outlets and shopping. I just don't run across things that will be a visual hindrance. I don't get pop-ups, etc.

I have to choose to go certain places on the Internet. When we had satellite you just didn't know what commercial might come on next and they are usually about sex.

I remember a Yoplait commercial - see? I didn't forget that one.
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:26 PM
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Concerning unity/disunity, i read the following awhile ago and found it interesting and could be an eye-opener for some..

http://apostoliccontender.blogspot.c...-tulsa-oh.html

So who broke the unity?
I went there and read it, but the whole time I couldn't drown out the deafening thought that I was reading this on a website on the World Wide Web!!!!!
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:28 PM
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Sister Alvear, your married to Jonathan Alvear's (Sulpher, LA) brother?

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Old 07-03-2008, 11:31 PM
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Concerning unity/disunity, i read the following awhile ago and found it interesting and could be an eye-opener for some..

http://apostoliccontender.blogspot.c...-tulsa-oh.html

So who broke the unity?
I also read the post.

Man discrepancies. The resolution does not allow for evangelism it allows for advertising.

It is all in the interpretation of the resolution.

Mostly its those that want out to be a big fish in the proverbial little pond.

So be it and let the bashing songs of the UPCI begin!!!!!
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Old 07-04-2008, 09:50 AM
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Mature christians do not bash even if they do not agree...I had faded out of several things in my life because I did not agree...
Whoever bashes on either side is wrong...we can disagree but not try to kill and leave a bloody trail...
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