Many think that unless you go to Bible College you are not qualified for ministry and you have somehow "called yourself" into ministry.
Doesn't Paul seem to take a different position on this saying that the fruit of the work is evidence of the calling in 2 Cor 3:1-4:
1 Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you?
2 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men;
3 being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts.
4 And such confidence we have through Christ toward God. (NAS)
What is your opinion on this subject?
Last edited by gloryseeker; 06-27-2008 at 11:22 AM.
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Many think that unless you go to Bible College you are not qualified for ministry and you have somehow "called yourself" into ministry.
Doesn't Paul seem to take a different position on this saying that the fruit of the work is evidence of the calling in 2 Cor 3:1-4:
1 Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you?
2 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men;
3 being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts.
4 And such confidence we have through Christ toward God. (NAS)
What is your opinion on this subject?
In the present condition of the Church seminary training is a very bad idea. You will be paying for men to teach you false doctrine on most topics.
I actually went to a bible college (upc) which I won't name for 1 semester. I can only say that out of the small group, I would say 10-15% were walking in the light and had a heart for God. I could also seethe difference in stages (freshman, junior, senior) of classes. Many of the seniors were fake, taught to "preach", and were a constant source of being this in church, and this outside the church. And boy did pride abound, I felt like I was at a peacock strutting grounds somedays(mainly the guys I'm talking about, definitely some girls too though).
I decided it was best for my soul if I didn't stay and continue to get what good there was there, because there was some good no doubt. My best friend graduated from there and hes an awesome guy. I know others who were there who did also, and they thrive for Jesus and his Kingdom. It just takes a special person to make it out and be truthfully better than what they were when they came. Many or most who go to bible college, really want to do what they can for God, and their intentions are good and innocent. A shame they are trained to be less
And also where did the idea even start that you had to go off somewhere and PAY SOMEONE to teach you the truths of YHWH? So absurd when that is the job of the ministry in the first place. Pay, pay, pay.
What happened to freely you have received freely give?
So, uneducated ministers are better at being led by the Spirit, and learning their "theology" on their own (or getting it directly from the HS), is that it? Or are we talking only about true seminaries, as opposed to Bible college (which also charges tuition, generally)?
Or are you just saying college or seminary ought to be free?
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So, uneducated ministers are better at being led by the Spirit, and learning their "theology" on their own (or getting it directly from the HS), is that it? Or are we talking only about true seminaries, as opposed to Bible college (which also charges tuition, generally)?
Or are you just saying college or seminary ought to be free?
To me we find the breakdown in God's system in Paul's exhortation to the Corinthians:
1 Cor 4:15
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. (KJV)
If those who are truly called, anointed, and seasoned in the Word and ministry would raise up sons in the faith and release into ministry a new crop of anointed ministers would emerge.
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