Oooooooh...we're a happy people yes we are
we're a happy people yes we are
been baptized in Jesus Name,
spoke in tongues when the Holy Ghost came,
we're a happy people yes we are...
scary...
Carpenter! LOL! You are a little more intelligent than that. No one knows the content of this meeting. How do you know that they are not speaking of serious matters? Do you want them to act silly at that point? No, we don't.
Carpenter! LOL! You are a little more intelligent than that. No one knows the context of this meeting. How do you know that they are not speaking of serious matters? Do you want them to act silly at that point? No, we don't.
I suppose you are right, I usually don't write down the first thing that comes to mind, but I even made myself laugh because that photo reminded me of that song I haven't heard or sang or even thought of in 15 years...
Herein lies the problem! Unless you are referring to non-UPCI pastors/churches (I don't think you are) that were using TV prior to the passing of res #4, those pastors/churches which did so were in direct violation of the "manual" they were in covenant to uphold. They could have left and followed their heart in being on TV, that would have been fine. Or they could have worked to change the rule, but when they chose to stay and openly violate the rules, that is blatant rebellion.
With all due respect I think those who have lambasted the WPF men, yet applaud those who openly rebel and violate the very covenant they entered into of their own free will (no one made them join the UPCI) are the ones with their head in the sand. Overlook rebellion..........denigrate those who stand on their convictions.......No Thanks!
Of course I am referring to non-UPCI Pastors and you knew that.
But this was just your opportunity to bash the UPCI again.
It amazes me that every time someone will bring up a Church that has been using TV for advertisement and programming all the CONS shut up or call them LIBS. But surprise, surprise it is working and they are winning and keeping souls.
People who wont use TV as a tool for evangelism are those who have their heads in the sand.
No one is overlooking rebellion........... constantly judge others ..... degenerate the Apostolic movement with that judgment of whose right and whose wrong .... NO THANKS!!!!!
I suppose you are right, I usually don't write down the first thing that comes to mind, but I even made myself laugh because that photo reminded me of that song I haven't heard or sang or even thought of in 15 years...
I looked through those photos...yea, like I don't have anything better to do, and I observed several current and even position-holding UPC pastors at those meetings being actively involved.
I looked through those photos...yea, like I don't have anything better to do, and I observed several current and even position-holding UPC pastors at those meetings being actively involved.
Well, it seems to me the men in those photos...most of them were united in that they all seemed to be mad (emotionally, not mentally...but then again...).
TV has been taught against, consistently for well over 40 years. Internet has been around less then 20 years and I've never heard anyone preach totally 100%... against the internet. I do not believe the AMF (ACI) saints have it much less then any other group. The amish won't drive a car or van.. but someone can drive them around in one. If I was to say internet was altogether wrong then get info in any way from the world wide web.. to me..its the same thing as the amish riding in a motor vehicle. It does seem strange the amish cant drive a van but can ride in one. That being said..I have to say I admire the amish for their stand. People (we) have to draw lines somewhere and sometimes the lines seem silly or hypocritical. People who dont believe nothing and have no convictions basically cannot be hypocrits. (sorry i cant spell well). Tv is where a lot of us have drawn the line. As I stated before..my kids are growing up in this fast paced world. And I need to be able to intelligently instruct them. When my kids grow up..they will no nothing of tv.. we dont allow dvd's. But they will know how to safely navigate the www. for education and business purposes. I understand the confusion with the tv/internet comparisons. The bad on tv far outweighs any good. tv is for what?? Your brand of upc was different then mine, obviously. Your bringing up that going to grocery store somehow makes us supporters of hollywood?? I percieve you have no problem with hollywood in your home or anywhere for that matter. I'm not stating this things to make you mad. I personally believe that no Christians have tv's. My Pastor tells me that that is not true and God has people on paths and that we are not to judge. I submit to my Pastor and try to just work on my own nasty self. We are all only going to be saved by the Grace of God. All I know is ultra conservative pentecost. My Pastor and Bishop, Paul and Alfred Deeds.Verbal Bean (tapes). Jonathan Alvear.Edwin Young. DC Moody.LE Westberg. Danny Perdew.Keith Hood.Ed Crider.Phil White. Gary Howard. Robert Davis.Ron Garrett. Meads. Lambeths. Cavaness.Nathan Dudley. Johnny King. Larry Booker. Johnny Godair.Crawford Coon. Nathaniel Wilson. Vaughn Morton.These preachers have shaped me into who I am today. What these men preach.. though I know there is even differences among them. These are the men who taught me against worldliness, and television is nothing else if not worldly. I got a little off track on this post.. forgive me.. i'm tired and have had a long day. God had to reach way down to a horrible cess pool to save me. And I owe him all my mind, heart and strength. I will always be ready to fight for the right. The trick is having the right attitude. I'm not too good at conveying my thoughts on paper (typing). I do believe your sincere and I appreciate your attitude. Talk to you soon.
TR
Bro. my point is that if you have the internet you already have "Hollywood in your home", plus all other kinds of things that will never be on TV. You have to choose to navigate away from it just like you can on TV. As far as there being nothing good on TV, that is not a valid argument. There are tons of educational and informational things that you can choose to watch. There are even people who have used TV to successfully reach millions of people with their brand of the gospel, and have grown ministries exponentially as a result....(insert gasp here). There are people who currently are members of those churches specifically because they saw them on TV. To answer your question as to what TV is for, it's for the same thing that radio is for. And there are things in all mediums that you should avoid and the wonderful thing is that you can easily avoid those things on all those mediums.
My point about supporting Hollywood is that you have to be consistent, because many of the same companies that benefit from TV benefit even more from the internet.
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Well, it seems to me the men in those photos...most of them were united in that they all seemed to be mad (emotionally, not mentally...but then again...).
Get over it!!!
Now you have me curious as to what the meeting was about. I do have to say the whole meeting had to be full of strong emotion from start to finish. Just a given.
If that was the Tulsa Meeting I know that many UPC preachers were present as our oldest son was there. It was a serious matter for all.
Brother Rutledge...I just need to ask if God was the one who reached down into the cesspool to save you, why then do you need these men to teach you against worldliness...or anyone else for that matter?
You are saying then that worldliness is subjective because if a man doesn't teach on this or that different from his counterpart of the same faith, then what he does not preach against is NOT considered worldly. What stability, continuity or unity does the church have if we are to rely on men...pastor or not to tell us what is worldly?? What happens when we encounter something we need to make our own decision about in a vaccum away from the man telling us what is worldly and what is holy?
When can we get to the point where we have a relationship with Jesus and men called of God actually lead us instead of simply feeling they need to tell us what to and what not to do all the time?
The ministry has put upon themselves their own leaden mantle that they cannot sustain.
Hello Carpenter, God always works through men and we are saved through preaching. Its not in man to direct his own path. I trust you do have an Elder or Pastor in your life.
I will always be ready to fight for the right. The trick is having the right attitude. I'm not too good at conveying my thoughts on paper (typing). I do believe your sincere and I appreciate your attitude. Talk to you soon.
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