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View Poll Results: Is AFF an Ex-Pentecostal Forum?
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06-01-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by CC1
If it makes you feel better to deny that poor judgement and a lack of wisdom in posting for the most part blew things up here then go for it. The truth is still the truth.
A little maturity in how one posts their views and a little respect for differing views is what kept FCF, NFCF and AFF going with that elusive dynamic I so miss.
All it took was some Johnny come lately's ( or mostly singular - A Johnny come lately) to come here with guns blazing with crude, rude words to make the more conservative leave in disgust.
It is silly to say they couldn't stand the heat and the other such garbage I see posted. They just could not stand the way in which the discussion was being handled with what they consider precioius truth being trashed in an insensitive way.
No one disagrees more with cons and ultra cons that I do but I and many more libs managed to have intelligent discourse and friendships with them on these forums. It can be done.
I wish this whole subject had not come up again because it disgusts me. A lot of good people were run off because of just plain stupidity and imaturity in posting.
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Excellent appraisal and spot on!
I'm with you Bro!
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06-01-2008, 02:54 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
Dan, it's obvious when it comes to this particular subject of what killed NFCF, the motives for starting this forum AND what divided this forum ... CC1 prefers to live in the Land of Make Believe.
I've known CC1 a long time and know of his historical contempt for Jimmy Carter's presidency ... which for the most part, I share.
(By the way, thanks mainly to eight years of the worst presidency in my lifetime, I am now a proud member of the Libertarian Party and an ex-Republican.)
But ... CC1 is as gullible to the motives of the founders of this board as Jimmy Carter was to the Soviets.
Sigh.
And of course, those who do not understand how analogies fit certain points and eager to grab ANYTHING to salvage a point when they don't have one ... will start screaming that I said the cons were communists.
Oh well ...
CC1, by the way - I'm not the Defender of Dan -
But okay.
He posts a lot.
He's passionate about what he believes.
He was banned several times.
Dan doesn't near use the boorish insults Mark Bassett did when he posted.
So ... if you were a mod on old NFCF and Dan posted there ...
... would you ban Dan and let Mark Bassett post?
Why or why not?
Pray tell me how Dan is more disruptive to a message board than Bassett was.
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06-01-2008, 02:55 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Oh boy.
Danny's gonna wet his britches when he reads that one!
All his hopes and dreams are coming true!
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For a long time, especially towards the end of FCF and during the NFCF era, I thought the forum was swinging towards becoming trinitarian. At the time, I didn't realize it was because I was connecting the one-stepper viewpoint with trinitarian beliefs about salvation. I've had to narrow the focus down to leaning towards becoming a one-stepper forum because I don't see anyone promoting the trinity version of the Godhead. Our one-step crowd seems to be very firmly planted in Oneness, even though I believe they are wrong on their beliefs on salvation.
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06-01-2008, 02:59 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by CC1
If it makes you feel better to deny that poor judgement and a lack of wisdom in posting for the most part blew things up here then go for it. The truth is still the truth.
A little maturity in how one posts their views and a little respect for differing views is what kept FCF, NFCF and AFF going with that elusive dynamic I so miss.
All it took was some Johnny come lately's ( or mostly singular - A Johnny come lately) to come here with guns blazing with crude, rude words to make the more conservative leave in disgust.
It is silly to say they couldn't stand the heat and the other such garbage I see posted. They just could not stand the way in which the discussion was being handled with what they consider precioius truth being trashed in an insensitive way.
No one disagrees more with cons and ultra cons that I do but I and many more libs managed to have intelligent discourse and friendships with them on these forums. It can be done.
I wish this whole subject had not come up again because it disgusts me. A lot of good people were run off because of just plain stupidity and imaturity in posting.
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You always did give me the impression that you enjoyed feeling accepted by the conservative and ultra-conservative crowd, especially when they would share a meal with you. Never mind the fact that privately they probably thought you were as lost as a goose in a snowstorm.
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06-01-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by timlan2057
Dan, it's obvious when it comes to this particular subject of what killed NFCF, the motives for starting this forum AND what divided this forum ... CC1 prefers to live in the Land of Make Believe.
I've known CC1 a long time and know of his historical contempt for Jimmy Carter's presidency ... which for the most part, I share.
(By the way, thanks mainly to eight years of the worst presidency in my lifetime, I am now a proud member of the Libertarian Party and an ex-Republican.)
But ... CC1 is as gullible to the motives of the founders of this board as Jimmy Carter was to the Soviets.
Sigh.
And of course, those who do not understand how analogies fit certain points and eager to grab ANYTHING to salvage a point when they don't have one ... will start screaming that I said the cons were communists.
Oh well ...
CC1, by the way - I'm not the Defender of Dan -
But okay.
He posts a lot.
He's passionate about what he believes.
He was banned several times.
Dan doesn't near use the boorish insults Mark Bassett did when he posted.
So ... if you were a mod on old NFCF and Dan posted there ...
... would you ban Dan and let Mark Bassett post?
Why or why not?
Pray tell me how Dan is more disruptive to a message board than Bassett was.
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Tim, why do you think the cons are Communists?
The answer to your questions are really simple.
Let me give you the two most over-used words in the short history of AFF.
Hyperbole is #1.
Hysteria is #2.
They both stink, if you get my drift.
I also think you confused passion with vitriol.
But hey, thanks for pointing out my hyperbolic hysteria.
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06-01-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
I do agree that GW Bush is the worst Republican President in history.
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06-01-2008, 03:03 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
I do agree that GW Bush is the worst Republican President in history.
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I think I hear Grasshopper headed this way! Get ready to discuss healthcare!!
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06-01-2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
Tim,
Mark Bassett was banned many times on the other forums and rightly so. DA would have been also.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because MB was prone to blow up the forum doesn't make DA doing the same thing right. They both were wrong.
I stand by my post but respect that you disagree.
Of course the UPCers who started AFF wanted it to be from an orthodox viewpoint with dissenters chiming in. That is and was no secret.
This was always supposed to be aforum coming from the Orthodox old time Oneness Pentecostal perspective but one that allowed discussion of that orthodoxy in an open manner.
That willingness to allow open discussion was based on the assumption of maturity in the posters and that they would do so in a respectful manner.
When the orthodoxy got trashed in a crude manner repeatedly and without restraint of course they abandoned the place.
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06-01-2008, 03:07 PM
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by Rico
You always did give me the impression that you enjoyed feeling accepted by the conservative and ultra-conservative crowd, especially when they would share a meal with you. Never mind the fact that privately they probably thought you were as lost as a goose in a snowstorm.
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I have repeatedly posted that I know that Elder Epley and the others think I am lost as a goose and going to split hell wide open.
I posted that within the last week here.
I very much enjoy meeting folks from the forum and have been blessed by the fellowship and friendship of some cons and ultra cons but never have I had the delusion that they "accept me" as saved.
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06-01-2008, 03:13 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have repeatedly posted that I know that Elder Epley and the others think I am lost as a goose and going to split hell wide open.
I posted that within the last week here.
I very much enjoy meeting folks from the forum and have been blessed by the fellowship and friendship of some cons and ultra cons but never have I had the delusion that they "accept me" as saved.
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CC1, I am far from considering myself conservative, but I am far from considering myself liberal as well. I am sure you know that I find your brand of Christianity to be entirely too bland for my tastes, as I know you find my brand of Christianity too spicy for your tastes. However, I would thoroughly enjoy meeting you, enjoying some cookout together, and watching some tv on your big screen! When can I stop by?
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