Do not really hate it. Just a figure of speach. My first name is Mark ALSO and ever time I see them respond to YOU they are using just the Mark part and since it is my name I of course have to REMEMBER it is not ME they are talking to. Not that it is a big deal.
DANIEL A is the Dan I was talking about.
Foreverblessed, been a long time! I wasn't even sure if you was here anymore or not. I saw your name on the admin. list but thought perhaps it was in name only.
my point of starting this thread was to discuss the direction of the UPC. I do think that eventually pants will not be an issue and I don't quite know what to think of it.
I have several societal concerns. If anyone cannot admit that we are digressing spiritually and socially, then they choose to be blind. but WHY?? and HOW did we get to this point ??? I tend to believe that it was the little foxes that have spoiled the vine. why are men becoming more women like? the women are ruling are society now. that's why. Feminism has taken root, that's why.
I saw your first post... I know why you started it. I don't think it will be long before pants are acceptable for women in the UPC. Personally, that is fine with me.... couldn't be soon enough. I have a very talented 16 old who would love to sing. She loves God and the Apostolic faith but will never be used unless she submits to "platform" standards. Someday she might... but quite honestly feel she will go where she is used when she is an adult.. even if it is outside UPC.
The backslidings of the church today has nothing to do with clothing StMark..nothing at all. It is the condition of the heart, the love for God has grown cold... people are not dedicated to the things of God because he is not first in their lives.
Foreverblessed, been a long time! I wasn't even sure if you was here anymore or not. I saw your name on the admin. list but thought perhaps it was in name only.
my point of starting this thread was to discuss the direction of the UPC. I do think that eventually pants will not be an issue and I don't quite know what to think of it.
I have several societal concerns. If anyone cannot admit that we are digressing spiritually and socially, then they choose to be blind. but WHY?? and HOW did we get to this point ??? I tend to believe that it was the little foxes that have spoiled the vine. why are men becoming more women like? the women are ruling are society now. that's why. Feminism has taken root, that's why.
This may be right in part, but I really don't think it is that simple, nor do I think a banket statement can be made regarding the church digressing... My family IS NOT.
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Hi Mark.... I see you are still concerned with "pants". You kill me my friend.
I heard a UPC preacher make a comment just the other day about the problem we are having with "feminine" young men in the church today... "Have you seen all the women's pants these young guys are wearing??".
I thought I was gonna lose it. Sadly I was the only one who saw the humor of that statement.... I felt a little bad for it... I was in a church service, I had to be good. As much as some might not like to admit it... there is quite a difference in men's and women's pants.
Sad to say, many of this younger generation of men has adopted a very feminine leaning in their dress. I think it is even in some of their hair styles. I saw one young man at a recent youth rally with the tightest, low riding pair of girly jeans and even a purse/bag slung over his shoulder... long shaggy hair... I guess he was hip... I think some of these boys need taken out back.... whup something into them.
I hate to see effeminacy in a man, and masculinity in a woman... that spirit is exactly what Deut 22:5 was addressing.
It's funny that you post this, because I have to really look at pants when I buy them to make sure they don't look too masculine, as there are 'trousers' that are made for women but look like they are for men. I'm sure you've seen the kind I'm talking about.
Dockers makes a women's pant that looks like the men's, even the pockets in the back. I won't buy those kind, nor any other kind that look like they are men's pants.
There is a difference in how they look.
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I saw your first post... I know why you started it. I don't think it will be long before pants are acceptable for women in the UPC. Personally, that is fine with me.... couldn't be soon enough. I have a very talented 16 old who would love to sing. She loves God and the Apostolic faith but will never be used unless she submits to "platform" standards. Someday she might... but quite honestly feel she will go where she is used when she is an adult.. even if it is outside UPC.
The backslidings of the church today has nothing to do with clothing StMark..nothing at all. It is the condition of the heart, the love for God has grown cold... people are not dedicated to the things of God because he is not first in their lives.
You mean you allow you 16 yr old who is under your roof to wear pants?
your father would have a fit FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Foreverblessed, been a long time! I wasn't even sure if you was here anymore or not. I saw your name on the admin. list but thought perhaps it was in name only.
my point of starting this thread was to discuss the direction of the UPC. I do think that eventually pants will not be an issue and I don't quite know what to think of it.
I have several societal concerns. If anyone cannot admit that we are digressing spiritually and socially, then they choose to be blind. but WHY?? and HOW did we get to this point ??? I tend to believe that it was the little foxes that have spoiled the vine. why are men becoming more women like? the women are ruling are society now. that's why. Feminism has taken root, that's why.
My friend, this has been happening for a long time now. It has nothing to do with women wearing pants nor with churches becoming more 'liberal'.
Look at the preachers and pastors who have fallen, for instance. They are not only men, but of the ones I know of, they are men thought to be conservative. The problem is the hearts of men and women, not what they are wearing at the moment.
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There is nothing wrong with a woman wearing pants IF she doesn't mind being an abomination.
And whoever worketh an abomination.....Rev.21:27
Okay, now most of you folks who are liberal and believe women can wear pants and men can wear dresses also respect Bro Epley as well, yet he believes this is an abomination. Do you think that perhaps he has a point and might be right or is totally wrong?
I saw your first post... I know why you started it. I don't think it will be long before pants are acceptable for women in the UPC. Personally, that is fine with me.... couldn't be soon enough. I have a very talented 16 old who would love to sing. She loves God and the Apostolic faith but will never be used unless she submits to "platform" standards. Someday she might... but quite honestly feel she will go where she is used when she is an adult.. even if it is outside UPC.
The backslidings of the church today has nothing to do with clothing StMark..nothing at all. It is the condition of the heart, the love for God has grown cold... people are not dedicated to the things of God because he is not first in their lives.
Excellent. I just posted the same thing.
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