RIP: The Neutralizing of Preaching Personalities - Page 26

Felicity · #**251** 03-17-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Are you agreeing or disagreeing?

Well now what do you think? Agreeing of course!

Ron · #**252** 03-17-2007, 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=Truly Blessed;43391]Most Pentecostals in North America are simply too distracted to be focused as they should on spiritual matters. The world has far more attraction than it should on most of us. Maybe if we had less affluence we would have more when it comes to spiritual passion and devotion to God. It seems that in those nations where they have little there is much more spiritual fervor among the churches.[/QUOTE]

I agree!

POTD! IF NOT YEAR!

Malvaro · #**253** 03-17-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

This is too good a thread to let die.

Jerry Wayne Dillon--Definitely a unique personality. In a movement where intensity isn't exactly uncommon, JWD is wired for 220. His delivery is radical, but don't let that fool you; there is substance in his preaching. He is definitely a personality that stands out from the crowd.

my senior year at JCM I attended his church as much as I could.... a great preacher pastoring a growing church....

Coonskinner · #**254** 03-17-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Well now what do you think? Agreeing of course!

Well, I thought you were.

Barb · #**255** 03-17-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

I think the answers to why we see less individuality and fewer "original type personalities" amongst apostolic preachers today lie more within the apostolic movement than outside. There is NO DOUBT at all but what the earlier generations were born at a time when there was much hardship. Many were born into and came out of poverty. Hardship tends to make people more resilient and tough out of necessity

There also was much less of a herd mentality within the OP movement back in the early days. It was much smaller back in the day when men like CB Dudley, Verbal Bean, Shue, Pugh, and some of the others who've been mentioned got saved and called into ministry.

Many of the men we think of were 1st generation OPs and the effect that comes with being 3rd, 4th and even 5th didn't touch them as it effects OPs today.

They were originals and didn't have anyone much to pattern themselves after. They were who they were - such as they were - and were tutelaged for the most part by the Holy Ghost.

Our Bible schools have churned out many many preachers over the last few decades. They pattern themselves after their mentors and leaders, develop the same preaching styles and have been encouraged to all think and believe and do things the same way. There's a herd mentality within the OP movement and the cookie cutter dynamic is huge.

I listen to a lot of these guys and they all sound the same. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing but many of them are just kind of bland and blah for the most part. Anointing minimizes the bland/blah-ness - thank God for that - but even anointing is scarce with a lot of these guys. In my opinion.

I grew up around preachers who I think for the most part were individuals and rough hewn kind of guys. RG Priest, Allison Post, CB Dudley, Wynn Stairs, Bill Drost, Paul MacDonald ........ etc. These men were strong, tough ....... definitely individuals who weren't afraid to stand up for what they believed .... even when or if it went against the status quo.

But I expect the younger guys today growing up in the church and perhaps later entering the ministry will say the same of some of us.

Yes, I agree...

Barb · #**256** 03-17-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Believe it or not, there are denominal folks who have a hunger for God and spiritual things. I have just returned from participating in a Leadership Conference in Egypt that was inter-denominational. You could not tell the Presbyterian, Baptists, and Pentecostals apart when it came to their worship and reaching out to God. It's a Pentecostal misconception that denominal church people have no interest in spiritual growth. My experience in the past 10 years has shown me otherwise.

Glad to have you back, TB...

#**257** 03-17-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Believe it or not, there are denominal* folks who have a hunger for God and spiritual things. I have just returned from participating in a Leadership Conference in Egypt that was inter-denominational. You could not tell the Presbyterian, Baptists, and Pentecostals apart when it came to their worship and reaching out to God. It's a Pentecostal misconception that denominal* church people have no interest in spiritual growth. My experience in the past 10 years has shown me otherwise.

*Main Entry: de·nom·i·nal
Pronunciation: dE-'nä-m&-n&l
Function: adjective
: derived from a noun

Various apostolic organizations are also DENOMINATIONS^ and do not have the monopoly on interest in spiritual growth. Other DENOMINATIONAL^ folks in many denominations also have an interest in spiritual growth.

^Main Entry: de·nom·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: di-"nä-m&-'nA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : an act of denominating
2 : a value or size of a series of values or sizes (as of money)
3 : NAME, DESIGNATION; especially : a general name for a category
4 : a religious organization whose congregations are united in their adherence to its beliefs and practices

- de·nom·i·na·tion·al /-shn&l, -sh&-n&l/ adjective