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[Jason B]

I was searching for another apostolic forum, and this was one of the first things that came up. It is a catholic forum discussing oneness. Really funny stuff, and of course some insults:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=130517

a couple of things that caught my eye:
-"There is pretty much no theology with this group."
-"They tend to be hostile to philosophy and to claim that they are simply following the Bible (big surprise!). They see the Trinity as a philosophical corruption of Christianity."
-"Jesus praying to Himself? Thats so absurd I cant wait to see how they defend that one."
-"My mom and uncle have both been to their services and both said they had to politely get up and leave before they rudely started laughing. Their service is the complete opposite of the Catholic Mass."

wow, i am enlightened. somebody find me a statue!

[missdkendall]

Originally Posted by Jason

I was searching for another apostolic forum, and this was one of the first things that came up. It is a catholic forum discussing oneness. Really funny stuff, and of course some insults:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=130517

a couple of things that caught my eye:
-"There is pretty much no theology with this group."
-"They tend to be hostile to philosophy and to claim that they are simply following the Bible (big surprise!). They see the Trinity as a philosophical corruption of Christianity."
-"Jesus praying to Himself? Thats so absurd I cant wait to see how they defend that one."
-"My mom and uncle have both been to their services and both said they had to politely get up and leave before they rudely started laughing. Their service is the complete opposite of the Catholic Mass."

wow, i am enlightened. somebody find me a statue!

Thank the LORD!!!! I'd fall asleep or pass out in a Catholic Mass.

[deltaguitar]

Actually if you are UPC you probably have a lot in common with the Catholic's works based salvation.

Here is a Catholic vs. Protestant test you can take. See how you score. I scored a perfect 100% protestant but my pastor who only scored 90%.

http://www.inchristalone.org/CathOrProt.html

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Actually if you are UPC you probably have a lot in common with the Catholic's works based salvation.

Here is a Catholic vs. Protestant test you can take. See how you score. I scored a perfect 100% protestant but my pastor who only scored 90%.

http://www.inchristalone.org/CathOrProt.html

Even Luther believed baptism was essential....him being a protestant....interesting eh?

And to say UPCers have a lot in common with catholics is absurd when you consider the works of the catholic involve regular eating of the host and drinking of the wine in order to be saved...pleading to Mary to pray to jesus for their souls. Come on....this sounds really more like another in a long line of cheap shots.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Actually if you are UPC you probably have a lot in common with the Catholic's works based salvation.

Here is a Catholic vs. Protestant test you can take. See how you score. I scored a perfect 100% protestant but my pastor who only scored 90%.

http://www.inchristalone.org/CathOrProt.html

delta,
I am UPC, your statements make no sense. I understand why you say it, but that is as bad information as is on the catholic forum. I am UPC, i believe that God's love, the Blood of Christ, gracy, mery, faith, and belief are all needed for salvation-but none of these is salvation, they simply pave the way, and make it possible for salvation. Without these we cannot be saved. When these things work in our lives, we should follow Jesus command to repent (Lk 13:3), and be born of water and the Spirit (John 3:5), Jesus commands are fulfilled in obeying Acts 2:38. Then one is born again, then the process of holiness,sanctification begins-but that is post salvation. I know you don't think baptism is needed, but don't accuse me of being 90% catholic because I am UPC. Also, I know these things are discussed elsewhere on this forum, so please don't hi-jack this thread. You have very valuable opinions, that I respect, but disagree with.
The point of this thread was how unaccurately we are percieved by these catholics, who spoke as though the had some knowledge of us.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Actually if you are UPC you probably have a lot in common with the Catholic's works based salvation.
Here is a Catholic vs. Protestant test you can take. See how you score. I scored a perfect 100% protestant but my pastor who only scored 90%.

http://www.inchristalone.org/CathOrProt.html

NOT.

I got 100% but I will say, some of those questions need further and better clarification. see #9 for example.

[izzyschwartz]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Actually if you are UPC you probably have a lot in common with the Catholic's works based salvation.

The stupidity of and behind this comment is only exceeded by the stupidity of and behind this comment!

By the way, "works" as you put it, are a very necessary step in the plan of salvation through Jesus Christ. In case you do not realize it, faith itself can be considered a work. The New Testament plan requires obedience and action. You Protestants should know this...

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Jason

I was searching for another apostolic forum, and this was one of the first things that came up. It is a catholic forum discussing oneness. Really funny stuff, and of course some insults:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=130517

a couple of things that caught my eye:
-"There is pretty much no theology with this group."
-"They tend to be hostile to philosophy and to claim that they are simply following the Bible (big surprise!). They see the Trinity as a philosophical corruption of Christianity."
-"Jesus praying to Himself? Thats so absurd I cant wait to see how they defend that one."
-"My mom and uncle have both been to their services and both said they had to politely get up and leave before they rudely started laughing. Their service is the complete opposite of the Catholic Mass."

wow, i am enlightened. somebody find me a statue!

I work with about 5 practicing catholics...for an office this small, that is a lot..

I had one co-worker ask their priest about Jesus name baptism.. he told them that it was true... the Catholic church did baptize in Jesus name at one time... lol

also, they consider their church to be the true Apostolic church... I don't argue with them.. I just join in with them and become a pentalic...or cathlicostal... I observe lent with them... I did draw the line of no ashes on my forehead... I do fast with them though...

They are so steeped in tradition though... reminds me of some other peeps I know. really truly though, I think the church, all churches have been impacted by catholism to a certain extent. Breaking out of that mindset on some things is not easy to do.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I work with about 5 practicing catholics...for an office this small, that is a lot..

I had one co-worker ask their priest about Jesus name baptism.. he told them that it was true... the Catholic church did baptize in Jesus name at one time... lol

also, they consider their church to be the true Apostolic church... I don't argue with them.. I just join in with them and become a pentalic...or cathlicostal... I observe lent with them... I did draw the line of no ashes on my forehead... I do fast with them though...

They are so steeped in tradition though... reminds me of some other peeps I know. really truly though, I think the church, all churches have been impacted by catholism to a certain extent. Breaking out of that mindset on some things is not easy to do.

This is true, I come from a long long line, (all the way back to the old country they say) of catholics and it's hard for many members of my fam to even entertain different religious thought that varies from their own.

I always felt that the wearing of a veil while I was attending the AA church was somewhat an influence from the catholic church.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by izzyschwartz

The stupidity of and behind this comment is only exceeded by the stupidity of and behind this comment!

By the way, "works" as you put it, are a very necessary step in the plan of salvation through Jesus Christ. In case you do not realize it, faith itself can be considered a work. The New Testament plan requires obedience and action. You Protestants should know this...