Can any WPF'rs explain:

[bkstokes]

Some are for Paul and Some are for Apollos. Discussion over different organizations leads to division and strife. Put the laws on people that you want to put on them. If they love Jesus they will grow in their sensitivity to what displeases the Spirit. If they don't then they will do what they want to do.

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Right, WPF membership - full of integrity and always live by the letter of the manual... UPC membership have become "Liars".



Now to prove it.... hmmm.



PS the smiley is watching the show on the INTERNET... Is he WPF or UPC?

He's smiling and enjoying it.
He must be Charasmatic.

Originally Posted by RevBuddy

SH...I have just a very simple question of the WPF apologists/supporters...

Does the WPF recognize/know...

...that fire has been discovered??? and that...
...the wheel has been invented???

They know, but since the wheel can take you to the liquor store, they're adding an AoF stating that they are against the use of the wheel and that if used properly you should just use your horse and buggy....no....no wait, news just coming in.....you can still get to the liquor store even on a horse....oh my.....so now they've ammended their statements to include their opposition to include horses and have stated that since the wheel and the horse can both get you to the liquor store, you should be only allowed to walk since God himself set the example and came and walked....wait....well I'll be....someone found out that you can also walk to the liquor store...
Enough is enough folks. When are we all going to realize that it's not the wheel. It's not the horse. If the users of either one of these doesn't have enough Jesus in them, you could hack their legs off and they'd drag bloody stumps down to the corner if that's what they wanted to do. My God is a big enough part of my life to convict me of going to the liquor store, most of the time anyway, lol, and I do not need manmade legislation to tell me that it's unsafe. I've got the Ghost for that.
To quote an old giant of the faith from around these parts, God rest his soul, W.M.Greer, "Looking back now, I wished I'd have had one in my own home so I'dve known what they were watching".

p.s. Assuming that they won't go on TV because of Hollywood, it stands to reason that they won't buy an expresso at Starbucks because Columbia also exports cocaine. Hmmmmmmm.....

Originally Posted by pelathais

I agree, Stephen. To an outsider this would sound like it's intentionally vague. It sounds like the writers wanted to leave a lot of options open.

To an outsider, which I am one, it sounds intentionally arcaic.
It sounds like the writers chisled it with hammer and stone.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by david c.

To an outsider, which I am one, it sounds intentionally arcaic.
It sounds like the writers chisled it with hammer and stone.

I seem to remember another document that was chiseled in stone.......let see.......I think they are called..........the commandments. lol

Good point.
I stand one-uped.

[A_PoMo]

I gotta admit, this whole TV and WPF thing just makes me scratch my head. When I read all the parsing and the arguments I feel as if I'm reading case law or arcane legal briefs. Is it just me or does this entire issue seem superflous? I just can't understand why good people can allow themselves to be overcome by such inconsequential matters and waste so much time and sacrifice so many relationships over what boils down to a holiness spitting contest. It just baffles me.

BTW: Sending Mallory to PI to help unite people seems odd to me. Isn't that like sending the fox to manage the hen house?

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by A_PoMo

I gotta admit, this whole TV and WPF thing just makes me scratch my head. When I read all the parsing and the arguments I feel as if I'm reading case law or arcane legal briefs. Is it just me or does this entire issue seem superflous? I just can't understand why good people can allow themselves to be overcome by such inconsequential matters and waste so much time and sacrifice so many relationships over what boils down to a holiness spitting contest. It just baffles me.

BTW: Sending Mallory to PI to help unite people seems odd to me. Isn't that like sending the fox to manage the hen house?

Amen let's just love Jesus and love each other and move on. Its all in HIM! Glory to God!

[Blaylock]

Just to clear something up res #4 is for advertising ONLY! Not ministering on TV, just for advertising. You can add things to that with your own interpretation but its sole purpose was and is for advertisement and (Lord forbid) spreading the Gospel. It would be a shame if someone would find salvation for their sin soaked soul by coming to a church advertisement on TV which reaches MILLIONS

[A_PoMo]

Has anybody done research to figure out if advertising on TV is effective in terms of numbers of people that actually convert? From what I hear in Willow Creek's latest research that mass media isn't at all effective and that most people are converted through personal relationships with believers. Imagine that! Whoduthunkit? Perhaps all that money should be spent doing things to help believers foster relationships with unbelievers. Besides, according to the latest trends it's mainly Boomers that watch TV, not the younger generations. The young ones are playing video games, texting, and on the internet. Boomers need God, but they're pretty much in church already. TV isn't a good medium for advertising to younger gens anyway. So it seems a moot point to me. The older demographic that actually watches TV regularly and most impacted by advertising already go to church (generally speaking) and the younger people don't watch it much anyway. This whole 'issue' seems like much adue about nothing (unless it's actually a wedge issue used by power brokers to gain control) Otherwise, why bother with it? Perhaps all this time and energy would be better spent in figuring out ways to leverage the internet and the rest of new media including viral advertising? It's cheaper and more effective and it's already allowed under the law..uh, I mean the UPC manual.