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Old 02-10-2008, 02:35 PM
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Matt,

I know exactly what you are saying.

I don't understand it all either, but I remember while growing up in my home church we had a six week revival - - the most awesome move of God, with many receiving the Holy Ghost (and still remain in the church) and re-dedications! A few years down the road we found out he was homosexual and eventually left his wife, the church and since has died of Aids.

It would be hard for me to question that as not being the "real" Holy Ghost. Powerful messages and powerful move of God.
Maybe it is that the Holy Ghost will show up where there is faith, but this in no way gives credence or credibility to the minister there. BUT what is happening here is that folks are heralding LW as a "Great Christian".
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:47 AM
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No one's as great a Christian as you, stmatthew.
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:14 AM
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No one's as great a Christian as you, stmatthew.
You actually know stmatthew?

By the way, Do you recognize LW as one that has repented of sexual sin? By the scripture we know that Jesus Christ or the Apostles would not elevate a practicing sinner to lead a congregation in worship.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:22 AM
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We aren't talking heart and motive here--we are talking about a man who has some things to make right, and he has not done so.
No repentance, no apologies to those he has wronged, no remorse, no ackowledgement of anything.
That is a far cry from trying to discern motives. Certain actions are required to make things right; those actions have not been forthcoming.
Nice try, but no soap.
What is the motivation behind those so protective of an unrepentant sinner, one who destroyed and wrecked the lives of only the Lord knows how many young men? If it were your son or brother, would you still be covering for him?


AMEN!!!!! Any pastor that would ignore this makes you wonder what else he would tolerate in his church.

I've heard no one say not to show mercy and restore those who want to change.We are talking about UNREPENTANT SIN.

Please stop twisting the facts acharris.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:28 PM
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No one's as great a Christian as you, stmatthew.

I do not claim to be a great Christian. But I do proclaim to have repented of my sins. Can you say the same of Lanny?
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:30 PM
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I do not claim to be a great Christian. But I do proclaim to have repented of my sins. Can you say the same of Lanny?
I thought you were going to shut this thread down?
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Old 02-11-2008, 02:04 PM
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AMEN!!!!! Any pastor that would ignore this makes you wonder what else he would tolerate in his church.

I've heard no one say not to show mercy and restore those who want to change.We are talking about UNREPENTANT SIN.

Please stop twisting the facts acharris.
Any man who is so fixated with the past sins of Lanny Wolfe makes you wonder what he is tolerating in his life.
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Old 02-11-2008, 02:16 PM
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Any man who is so fixated with the past sins of Lanny Wolfe makes you wonder what he is tolerating in his life.

Wrong.What we are "fixated" on is YOUR tolerance of his UNREPENTANT sin.
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Old 02-11-2008, 02:19 PM
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Any man who is so fixated with the past sins of Lanny Wolfe makes you wonder what he is tolerating in his life.
acharris,

I am a JCM graduate and although not talented musicly myself LW and Mareitta were a big part of my life during that time.

I consider them friends and if they performed locally I would go see them. I enjoyed their first reunion performance at the 2005 JCM reunion.

Having said that I agree with Coonskinner's assessment that the issue here is not one of not forgiving but one of recognizing that the sin has never been confessed nor restoration made.

I am exUPC with deep roots still in the UPC and I also am in the know among exUPC circles. Not one single time have I heard anything about LW coming clean over his problem, the accusations, etc or any restoration, accountibility group,etc.

For that reason I would not be happy if my exUPC church invited the trio to sing. Not to mention just the flat out weirdness of a group where 2/3 of it are made up of two people who are divorced from one another!

Bottom line is that most of us on here believe in restoration to one degree or another but that has not been done in this case.
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Old 02-11-2008, 03:29 PM
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acharris,

I am a JCM graduate and although not talented musicly myself LW and Mareitta were a big part of my life during that time.

I consider them friends and if they performed locally I would go see them. I enjoyed their first reunion performance at the 2005 JCM reunion.

Having said that I agree with Coonskinner's assessment that the issue here is not one of not forgiving but one of recognizing that the sin has never been confessed nor restoration made.

I am exUPC with deep roots still in the UPC and I also am in the know among exUPC circles. Not one single time have I heard anything about LW coming clean over his problem, the accusations, etc or any restoration, accountibility group,etc.

For that reason I would not be happy if my exUPC church invited the trio to sing. Not to mention just the flat out weirdness of a group where 2/3 of it are made up of two people who are divorced from one another!

Bottom line is that most of us on here believe in restoration to one degree or another but that has not been done in this case.
Did anyone in the UPC try to restore him?
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