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03-12-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by deadeye
I really dont think the problem is that young men aren't being called or responding. What is happening is that Pastors are not encouraging thier young men to get thier license as early.
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or they are just not plain encouraging their young men to get license....
I used to think that there are some pastors who may not recognize a person's calling to the ministry.... but a man's gift maketh room for itself.... sometimes a person just has to carve out their own place in the kingdom of God.... teaching at a prison/nursing home, teaching Bible studies, helping with the youth group or Sunday school, creating a study group, etc....
see my sig line.... 
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Last edited by Malvaro; 03-12-2007 at 12:50 PM.
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03-12-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
from a carnal perspective, which is what some only see, the kingdom of God doesn't pay bills like the world does....
if you aren't completely sold out to the Lord, you aren't going to be willing to sacrifice a nicer life to put up with some of the junk that pastors have to weekly put up with.... they will talk about how they "want to help the Kingdom of God" but will go to their 8-5 job, log their time, and come back to their nice 3 bedroom home with two-car garage....
they might even show up for all three church services, pay their tithes/ offerings and occasionally help with some ministry in the church....
ministry can lead to a sacrifice that many are not willing to pay....
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Sadly this is true.
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03-12-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
or they are just not plain encouraging their young men to get license....
I used to think that their are some pastors who may not recognize a person's calling to the ministry.... but a man's gift maketh room for itself.... sometimes a person just has to carve out their own place in the kingdom of God.... teaching at a prison/nursing home, teaching Bible studies, helping with the youth group or Sunday school, creating a study group, etc....
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I agree!
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03-12-2007, 02:18 PM
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My two little angels!
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Originally Posted by Ron
I heard an interesting Statistic this weekend.
There are approximately 9,000 licensed Ministers with the UPCI in North America.
About 600 of them are below the age of 30!!
The median age is 43. That is my age (though I am not licensed) and I wonder why that is?
Isn't God calling anymore?
Included in our message is yesterday was this, the nmost important thing one can do in the kingdom is to serve.
Have we lost are ability to serve?
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Maybe most don't get licensed until they are older - after they have gone through all their schooling - and for some it may take longer to figure out what their calling is. My husband is 25 and is just now getting into the ministry - he will not get licensed anytime soon either. That will be down the road once he knows for sure what God has for him down the road.
The dues alone are enough to hinders someone from joining in my opinion!!
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03-12-2007, 02:19 PM
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My two little angels!
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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate
when I was coming up in the youth...there were soo many young men wanting to be a minister/preacher....
in my church, there hasn't been ONE young person in the last 12 years that had the desire to preach.... sad!!! and they sit under one of the best preachers ever......
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And here I was thinking that we have too many in our church who want to!!! Some of them I would be leary of but who am I too judge????? right? Lol!
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03-12-2007, 02:21 PM
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My two little angels!
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Originally Posted by deadeye
I really dont think the problem is that young men aren't being called or responding. What is happening is that Pastors are not encouraging thier young men to get thier license as early.
I have a friend nearby who has 16 ministers (most are in thier teens and 20's) in his church and only 4 of them are licensed. He simply sees no need to be paying the dues of 12 extra men.
Another has 4 in his church and 2 are licensed.
There are a couple of reasons why this is happening, one is that only certain men can vote, and so young preachers, and thier Pastors see no reason to license men who cant vote anyway.
Dues are going up, ( 100.00 a month in Western District, plus national dues)
and why pay that when you can preach without it. And with the instability and contreversies that are going on in the UPC right now, many feel that getting a license right now with the possibilty of leaving later would be dumb.
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I agree!!
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03-12-2007, 02:23 PM
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My two little angels!
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
or they are just not plain encouraging their young men to get license....
I used to think that there are some pastors who may not recognize a person's calling to the ministry.... but a man's gift maketh room for itself.... sometimes a person just has to carve out their own place in the kingdom of God.... teaching at a prison/nursing home, teaching Bible studies, helping with the youth group or Sunday school, creating a study group, etc....
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That may be true - my former pastor was always leary of encouraging people to get licensed but my current pastor encourages it greatly!!
Sometimes I wonder how certain people get licensed!!! LoL!!
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03-12-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by QueenEsther
That may be true - my former pastor was always leary of encouraging people to get licensed but my current pastor encourages it greatly!!
Sometimes I wonder how certain people get licensed!!! LoL!!
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And how do some keep them?
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03-12-2007, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by QueenEsther
That may be true - my former pastor was always leary of encouraging people to get licensed but my current pastor encourages it greatly!!
Sometimes I wonder how certain people get licensed!!! LoL!!
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They have to be recommended by their pastor...I thought???
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03-12-2007, 05:07 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
You get a subscription to the Pentecostal Herald with a UPCI license!  |
I have a subscription to the Pentecostal Herald without a UPCI license.
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