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12-19-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Theresa
this is the craziest thing I've ever read on this forum...
how about 49 men who are unable to stay a part of something they personally do not feel is right?
just suppose this has NOTHING to do with the passing of Res4...at least not in the WAY people automatically think.
This didnt happen overnight....it's been a long time coming.
Res 4 was NOT the issue...it was the "out"
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Originally Posted by PastorD
You need to keep reading then . . . 
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Originally Posted by Dora
We're NOT. I repeat, NOT upset that these guys are leaving.
I for one am upset about their conduct and the manner in which they are forming their "new" organization on the shoulders of the UPC.
Why can't they just leave, go do their own thang and let the UPCI go on some semblance of "peace?"
Instead, they have been undermining the unity of the organization and contending for their differences to the disunity of the brethren for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS! Hello? Do you think this just happened at this year's GC because of the passing of RES.4??? I'm sorry to bear this news to my dear friends who would like to believe the best of these guys, but these great men of God have been disgruntled and behaving badly for YEARS! And again I say YEARS!
I so wish they would have done this YEARS ago. I wish them godspeed and "Lord bless ya!" and go on git!
But there's a problem, they are keeping their churches that were once affiliated with the UPC. Their decisions affect their saints. The saints are free to go elsewhere...but what if they want to stick with the UPC but now that Brother Holier-than-thou has decided to go with WPF they are up the proverbial creek because their district is so sparsely populated with UPC churches???
Do you people really think these men are thinking of the greater good?
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Go Dora, Go Dora, Go Dora!!! This gal can preach...whether you like it or not.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-19-2007, 10:46 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Dora went charismatic- have you gone "C" too ?????
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12-19-2007, 11:10 AM
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Dora went charismatic- have you gone "C" too ?????
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I'm a One God, Apostolic, Tongue -Talkin, Holy Rollin', Born Again, Heaven Bound Believer in the Liberatin' Power of Jesus Name! ...I believe in HOLINESS and I suggest that you should do the same... I was set free at a Pentecostal altar on my knees...Pardon me if I'm not ashamed...
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-19-2007, 11:15 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Don't Tell Dan Alicia whatever you do !!!! 
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12-19-2007, 11:19 AM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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12-19-2007, 11:19 AM
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Shades of Lance Appleton
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12-19-2007, 11:23 AM
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Psalm 121
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Originally Posted by Thad
Don't Tell Dan Alicia whatever you do !!!!
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Why not, I'm pretty sure he is too! 
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-19-2007, 11:25 AM
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Invisible Thad
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12-19-2007, 11:27 AM
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Psalm 121
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Originally Posted by Theophil
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Originally Posted by Encryptus
Shades of Lance Appleton
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Exactly right. A friend and fellow Gateway alumnus.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-19-2007, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PreacherV
Of course not...not NOW. There is a process that has to be carried out, and it can only be done in this order: If your church is affiliated, a sitting UPC pastor has to be the one to initiate the disaffiliation. A non-UPC pastor cannot pastor an affiliated church. So the only ones that are going to turn their cards in right away are the ones whose churches were never affiliated or at some point previously decided to disaffiliate. The bylaws require that the DS and presbyter be notified and be allowed to present the org's perspective at the duly called meeting. The church hears both arguments and then votes in or out. So to turn in their cards prematurely would be to automatically lose their pastorate. I know a guy who is one of the listed 50 elders who is presently disaffiliating his church and claims that he is going to keep his UPCI license. Not going to happen. As soon as the church completes the disaffiliation process, he will be turning in his card. I have NO doubt about that. Dual membership may be possible but for most it will not be practical. Whose going to be willing to pay dues to both organizations at the same time? No, they're going to see how things shake out, complete the disaffiliation process, and then turn in their cards or stop paying their dues or have a card-burning party!
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You are mistaken. I know men whose names appear on this list who pastor churches which have NEVER been affiliated, and they are STILL not giving up their UPC license. In fact, I spoke with one just the other day. He is serving in a District level position within the UPCI and has no plans to get out.
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