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[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The speculation regarding ethics involves a discussion about how one of the former Executive Council members (now a member of the General Council) was reported to be making telephone calls to UPC ministers trying to get them to "join" the new ... whatever it is.

This would be unethical if indeed the phones calls were made AND if indeed this is a new organization.

So does this mean folks are "judging" before they know for sure this is a full blown Org?? Surely Not!!

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Do you really believe the same thing fundamentally? We have folks posting right here on AFF that are part of the UPC, that believe contrary. Some believe salvation occurs at repentance, some believe it takes all of Acts 2:38.

No, what you are asking is these men to sear their conscience on what they believe to be right, and stay.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I ask again, what is the unethical behavior??

I am not going to keep on with this, I am not one to argue, really. I just wish this could have all turned out differently. It is just really sad. I am done!

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by PreacherV

Does the AWCF have all the other bells and whistles....Foreign Missions, Youth Division, Ladies Ministry, etc?

St. Matt, it is obvious that this is not just a little club for like-minded UPC'ers who want to hang out with each other minus the taint factor of their more liberal-minded brethren. Their motive, in my opinion, is to humble the Mothership and at the same time prove that they can win the world on their terms. They will ultimately fail in both respects. The old bitter/sweet fountain trick cannot be mastered.

Perhaps the UPC will have a counter reformation?

[embonpoint]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The speculation regarding ethics involves a discussion about how one of the former Executive Council members (now a member of the General Council) was reported to be making telephone calls to UPC ministers trying to get them to "join" the new ... whatever it is.

This would be unethical if indeed the phones calls were made AND if indeed this is a new organization.

And if it would indeed require one to leave the UPCI.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Let me say this too. No one was blind going into the GC to vote during Resolution 4. If anyone thought that it would not finish the divide that was already present, they were fooling themselves. The fullness of the division came with the passing of Resolution 4.

That may be wishful thinking my friend. There may yet be an even "greater fullness" of the division in store for all of us to discuss.

[PreacherV]

Originally Posted by jrLA

Seems strange to teach on Ministry Ethics being that this whatever it is (organization or fellowship), is being birthed out of unethical behavior!

Thou sayest. Thou sayest well!

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by PreacherV

Does the AWCF have all the other bells and whistles....Foreign Missions, Youth Division, Ladies Ministry, etc?

St. Matt, it is obvious that this is not just a little club for like-minded UPC'ers who want to hang out with each other minus the taint factor of their more liberal-minded brethren. Their motive, in my opinion, is to humble the Mothership and at the same time prove that they can win the world on their terms. They will ultimately fail in both respects. The old bitter/sweet fountain trick cannot be mastered.

Originally Posted by Elfin

Hi all,

This is my first post on AFF...mostly I'm a friendly lurker, though I did post very infrequently on FCF and NFCF.

When I saw this thread - and I skimmed through the 38 pages, so I don't think anyone has seen or noticed yet - but I found a way to get into the website that Larry Booker is working on right now. It is still under construction...and we'll see if the pages stay live of if they get taken down once I post this...

But you can access the site here: http://www.worldwidepf.com/page.php

www.worldwidepf.org and www.worldwidepentecostalfellowship.org look like they're both parked on worldwidepf.com

And the information there is consistent w/ what Thad has already posted earlier.

www.worldwidepf.com is also owned by Larry Booker according to WhoIs lookup search.

Happy surfing, everyone!

It looks like there is another flier going to be sent out soon, based upon the information on the site.

[PreacherV]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Let me say this too. No one was blind going into the GC to vote during Resolution 4. If anyone thought that it would not finish the divide that was already present, they were fooling themselves. The fullness of the division came with the passing of Resolution 4.

Finally, something I can agree with you on!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by PreacherV

Check out the recent post by Elfin on Thad's Tab (((TULSA BOMBSHELL--49 ELDERS EXPLAINED))) These web pages will probably disappear very quickly once it is known we are viewing them! VERY ENLIGHTENING STUFF.

For example...

2008 Chairman -- JG
2009 Chairman -- FO

Especially interesting....SCHEDULE OF SESSIONS

I made screen shots and captured the image files. Just FYI. No biggie.