I dont have time to respond to you in depth today. Too much work. but let me say, I dont need Rush or Sean to provide me with outlandish cliams. I can come up with them all on my own. (I work for a living thus i dont actually have much time to listen to them).
on the subject of abortion, the postion of dems is as best hypocritical if you suggest that dems dont "support" abortion, they just say that government should not be in the business of it being "private behavior"
HOGWASH! to believe that, you have to believe that an unborn child is not a human being! what utter nonsense. it is absoltly FACT that the postion of EVER major national figure in the Demonrat party supports ABORTION ON DEMAND. That is code speak for abortion up to and including the 9th month!
Friend, by EVERY, i mean EVERY SINGLE national demonrat politician. not some random few liberal nut fringe cooks.
ALL OF THEM.
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Now it is suggested that a "revelation" is needed to align one's self with the party of Ferd's choosing. Ferd, let me let you in on a secret. The Republicans and the Democrats are the right and left hands of the beast. You can serve one or the other...but you're still serving the beast. One party advances global government...the other global markets and banking. The two are absolutely essential for the Antichrist to rise to power. And stupid American people are slapped by the left and then by the right to beat them into submission so that the powers behind the scenes can accomplish their Satanic goals.
The war between the right and the left is a frabricated crisis to decieve the simple minded.
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I dont have time to respond to you in depth today. Too much work. but let me say, I dont need Rush or Sean to provide me with outlandish cliams. I can come up with them all on my own. (I work for a living thus i dont actually have much time to listen to them).
That’s wonderful Ferd, because those guys lie constantly.
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n the subject of abortion, the postion of dems is as best hypocritical if you suggest that dems dont "support" abortion, they just say that government should not be in the business of it being "private behavior"
I’m sure you’re not ignorant of the matter, but your gross mischaracterization would cause one to wonder. Democrats support Roe v. Wade. The SCOTUS clearly placed abortion law as an issue to be addressed at the state level. It has always been that way.
The reference to “private behavior” was in regards to indecent relations. Less than 11% of Americans are gay. And most of them are too promiscuous to enter into a legal marriage. America’s biggest moral issues in this area are fornication, divorce, and adultery. Ronald Reagan was the one who advanced the “no fault” divorce law in the American justice system when he was Governor of California. That was a far worse blow against true marriage than the civil union issue.
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HOGWASH! to believe that, you have to believe that an unborn child is not a human being! what utter nonsense. it is absoltly FACT that the postion of EVER major national figure in the Demonrat party supports ABORTION ON DEMAND. That is code speak for abortion up to and including the 9th month!
You’re clearly misunderstanding what’s being said dear brother. Abortion is a state issue. Always has been…always will be. So frankly it doesn’t matter what national Democratic or Republican figures say or claim.
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Friend, by EVERY, i mean EVERY SINGLE national demonrat politician. not some random few liberal nut fringe cooks.
Let me correct you…every politician be they Republican or Democrat are cooks.
Now in closing I’m going to ask a VERY important question. Perhaps it’s the most relevant question in this discussion. Ferd, assuming the Republicans become “born again” and get serious about abortion and pass laws prohibiting it; what should be the legal ramifications if a woman gets an illegal abortion?
That’s wonderful Ferd, because those guys lie constantly.
I’m sure you’re not ignorant of the matter, but your gross mischaracterization would cause one to wonder. Democrats support Roe v. Wade. The SCOTUS clearly placed abortion law as an issue to be addressed at the state level. It has always been that way.
The reference to “private behavior” was in regards to indecent relations. Less than 11% of Americans are gay. And most of them are too promiscuous to enter into a legal marriage. America’s biggest moral issues in this area are fornication, divorce, and adultery. Ronald Reagan was the one who advanced the “no fault” divorce law in the American justice system when he was Governor of California. That was a far worse blow against true marriage than the civil union issue.
You’re clearly misunderstanding what’s being said dear brother. Abortion is a state issue. Always has been…always will be. So frankly it doesn’t matter what national Democratic or Republican figures say or claim.
Let me correct you…every politician be they Republican or Democrat are cooks.
Now in closing I’m going to ask a VERY important question. Perhaps it’s the most relevant question in this discussion. Ferd, assuming the Republicans become “born again” and get serious about abortion and pass laws prohibiting it; what should be the legal ramifications if a woman gets an illegal abortion?
frankly ive seen more lies from mkle more (mispelled due to utter contempt on my part), moveon.org, and the demonrat national commettee than Sean or Ruch.
and the fact remains, every single major national demonrat politician stands for Federal law/Court mandates that provide for Abortion on demand! they do not believe Abortion is a State issue.
YOU are the one mischarictorizing the position of National Leftists in America.
The Fact is Abortion is neither a Federal issue, nor a state issue and National demonrats dont want it to be. they want it to remain a federal mandate.
what I want is Abortion out of the courts. period. end of story. i want a national debate and a supreme court that says this is not a constitutional issue.
then we can hash out what needs to happen.
it really makes me laugh when someone points at the conservitives and says the word "lie" this from the party that gave us Bill Clinton. dude (or is it dudette?), you got zero moral ground to stand on.
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frankly ive seen more lies from mkle more (mispelled due to utter contempt on my part), moveon.org, and the demonrat national commettee than Sean or Ruch.
Actually Moore's factcheck on Sicko checks out rather well, though it could provide better context in some places. Gupta critiqued Sicko and then later admitted that he wasn't entirely honest and exagerated problems with the film. I encourage you to see it and study it out. That's if you're open enough to look into the possiblity of learning something you assumed was wrong right off the bat. Besides Sicko though, I too am not much of a Moore fan but I have friends and family who live in Canada who strongly suggested I see it. After I saw it I was rather puzzled with the lies and micharacterizations I was hearing from the conservative side of things.
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and the fact remains, every single major national demonrat politician stands for Federal law/Court mandates that provide for Abortion on demand! they do not believe Abortion is a State issue.
Not every. But I'll give you most are.
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YOU are the one mischarictorizing the position of National Leftists in America.
Democrats are rather diverse. Some see it as Aquila described, others are raging Pro-Abortion nutcases. But, even the Republicans suffer the same problem.
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The Fact is Abortion is neither a Federal issue, nor a state issue and National demonrats dont want it to be. they want it to remain a federal mandate.
Women are mandated to have an abortion? Wow. I didn't know that. My wife must have missed the memo.
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what I want is Abortion out of the courts. period. end of story. i want a national debate and a supreme court that says this is not a constitutional issue.
then we can hash out what needs to happen.
Actually Aquila's question is quite important to consider before going down that road. It's a real simple question really. What would you suppose we do with women who procure abortions illegally if we win this social debate?
I'll tell you that I know why you're dodging the question. You don't want to be confronted with the unacceptable outcome. So instead you're siding with the Republican machine and keeping the issue alive without stated resolution. Why? Because you hope to allow your party of choice to politically capitalize off the deaths of 1.6 million human beings a year. If not...state your answer to the question. I can remember a Republican I looked up to laughing and saying, "You got to keep the issue alive baby!" He didn't care that people were dying to keep his wedge issue alive.
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it really makes me laugh when someone points at the conservitives and says the word "lie" this from the party that gave us Bill Clinton. dude (or is it dudette?), you got zero moral ground to stand on.
C'mon, this is politics. It doesn't matter if they're Democrat or Republican....if their mouth is moving...they are lying.
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