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11-29-2007, 08:56 PM
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What if it bills itself as "one of the fastest growing movements in the world" when, in fact, its attendance numbers have decreased steadily for over a decade?
Is that a lie?
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Overall ... the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement is one of the fastest growing ... special effects dat's all. 
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11-29-2007, 08:58 PM
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Is the focus of the UPC politics and image - or ministry?
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As it is designed .... in practice ... BOTH ....
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11-29-2007, 08:58 PM
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What if it bills itself as "one of the fastest growing movements in the world" when, in fact, its attendance numbers have decreased steadily for over a decade?
Is that a lie?
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All depends what part of the world you're in and how gullible you are!
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11-29-2007, 08:58 PM
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As it is designed .... in practice ... BOTH ....
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WWJD?
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11-29-2007, 08:59 PM
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WWJD?
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Weep?
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11-29-2007, 09:00 PM
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What if it bills itself as "one of the fastest growing movements in the world" when, in fact, its attendance numbers have decreased steadily for over a decade?
Is that a lie?
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This is a point that I have made over the years (without OFFICIAL documentation of course)
It could still be called "one of the fastest fastest growing" if the numbers going out the back door are not taken into account. In other words, if new converts to the faith is the criteria... then yes... it could be, even if there is a net loss due to back door exiting.
I agree it is misleading.
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11-29-2007, 09:03 PM
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Weep?
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I don't think so.
I think he would turn over some tables.
In related news, why would anyone give to a "non-profit" whose leadership openly claims is a "business?"
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11-29-2007, 09:03 PM
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It's wrong... it's against the Christian principles on which they claim to hold to.
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11-29-2007, 09:04 PM
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In related news, why would anyone give to a "non-profit" whose leadership openly claims is a "business?"
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Busniess and 'non-profit' are opposing terms.
The point of a business is to turn a profit, and the profit goes into someone's pocket.
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11-29-2007, 09:08 PM
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True, But...
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
Busniess and 'non-profit' are opposing terms.
The point of a business is to turn a profit, and the profit goes into someone's pocket.
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And I have read many stories that relate abuse in non-profit's pockets!
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