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[Dora]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Can there be NO payoff?? Why will non members of an organization begrudge the members of that organization of its beliefs?

I see no one railing against the Masons, the Elks, or the Eagles for their little secret laws. I don't care what they do...why do the UPC exes care?

What an absolutely MORONIC question! We care because the UPC is our spiritual heritage. Some of us have much love and respect for our good ole mothership and find its machinations fascinating. Some of us still have a foot in the door since many family members are affiliated. Some of us still contribute to UPC churches in our way and hope and pray that all this mess will get sorted out for the benefit of loved ones who are involved. To suggest that if you leave the ship you have nothing to contribute is ridiculous! (I had another word lined up but thought better of it.)

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Here is the current set of ultracon talking points.

1. The UPCI has gone to H E double hockeysticks.
2. The UPCI is charismatic.
3. The UPCI "left" us.
4. We've got to "map" a "preferred Apostolic future."
5. BTW, we still think the lost, charismatic, compromisers are just ducky, we just don't want to be around them any longer.

Do you have a speech impediment?

You seem to be stuttering?!

The men leaving are just as vital and important to the Kingdom as the men staying. To say that anybody - especially someone of Bro. Booker and Bro. Godair's caliber - is insignificant is lunacy of the highest order.

What has made this organization great is the diversity of brethren and Apostolic based viewpoints. To say either extreme is insignificant is absolute ignorance. All are needed in the Kingdom... some just feel that perhaps their viewpoint is not as well accepted by the UPC at large.

I personally don't think that we will lose a massive number of ministers. Many that you folks discuss aren't planning on leaving at all... regardless of the claims they have already committed to organizational 'kamikaze' tactics. In many instances it just hasn't happened and won't. However, I think the caliber of men that we stand to lose is a much greater danger than just the acceptance of TV advertising.

Again, many see TV advertising as the 'final straw' but others just see it as a strong cue to seek out fellowship more atune to their convictions. I can't fault those that stay. I refuse to fault those that leave.

I agree... this thread crosses the lines in far too many areas.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Barb

I know we can't beg them to stay, but we can at least act like it matters.

While an organization is not the Church, the men and woman affiliated are...it grieves my spirit that it has come to this.

This is not against you personally, Elder, for I have been spouting this for the longest.

I just used your post to voice it again, first because the words struck me so, and second because I knew I could...

I wish them well, but I think it is best that they leave.

They have been the source of much division.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by CareyM

Forgive me, I did not realize that you were responding to Dora's post...I completely misunderstood.

No forgiveness necessary, Sis.

I was just confused as to why this seemed to be so interesting.

I quoted Dora's post in my answer....

I, for one, am going with the giant slayers!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I wish them well, but I think it is best that they leave.

They have been the source of much division.

Causing division while still holding their licenses ... having affirmed against the disunity of the brethren, breaching the ministerial code of ethics and not complying to their signed ethical commitments when they made when applying for their ministerial licenses.

[Nahum]

Posted by Steadfast:
To say that anybody - especially someone of Bro. Booker and Bro. Godair's caliber - is insignificant is lunacy of the highest order.

Who mentioned names?

BTW, have we even determined that they have left?

[tv1a]

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

Go to inlandlighthouse.com

Go to the sermoms online link

The sermon tiltled "protecting the bean patch".

It is only on audio...of coarse...LOL.

He told the story but left out the names...so you'd have to be knowledgeable of the the "friends" of TC to know it was the Phillips....he also talked abot Mark Hamby....

Thad's original post was a truthful (except with the names added) I just listened to the sermon....

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

No forgiveness necessary, Sis.

I was just confused as to why this seemed to be so interesting.

I quoted Dora's post in my answer....

Well, I guess I just didn't bother to go back and read it...my bad!