Paul Morton, Marvin Winans.... What a preacher!!!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Mercy

You are right. They believe in Salvation at confession, yet he REQURIES that you be baptized in Jesus' Name AND recieve the HG w/ tongues....but that isnt what "saves" you...just an obedience thing (the baptism). The way it is worded in thier announcements "bulletin" once was "If you have not been baptized since being saved please see Sister "so-in-so" to make arrangements to do so....". And they had "holy ghost" school on the calandar and when I asked what that was it was explained to me as what I would call old school "tarrying service" where you go and are taught what the HG baptism is, then pray for it until you recieve. He does teach the trinity. So it is definately a hodge-podge of his COGIC and PAW heritage.

I would be interested to know what Bishop Wagner thinks of him teaching the trinity!!!!!
It might be a sort of different version of the Trinity too- some use wording that can sort of go either way

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

I listened to Bishop Paul Morton preach and my oh my it was incredible. (this probably would fit on another thread but I wouldn't know where)

Anyway, it was at the Azusa Conference and there was lots of great preaching going on. anyway, Paul Morton, a baptist, was preaching to the church that you 've gotta have the HolyGhost. may not be much to some of you but, the most of the baptist don't believe you have to have the HolyGhost to be saved... Anyway, it was great. I'm telling you, there is something different about that guy!

In the same conference, I heard Marvin Winans preach! He preached Jesus, that's it and that's all! The man can preach.... I know some of ya won't listen to them because they aren't of the same church as you, but it's some good , good preachin'!

Was I correct in hearing that Marvin Winans was PAW? I heard that somewhere but wasn't sure....

I saw the same message PM preached and started a thread about it around a year ago and caught alot of junk over it. I agree it was a great, great, great message. Man did the HG move in that service!

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Wagoner wouldn't care. He is as strong as soup made off the shadow of a skinny chicken.

TRUE!!!

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

That's sort of like TD Jakes, right? I mean, he claims oneness, but isn't adament about it.

Either you believe it or you don't there is not middle road. If you won't stand up for it everywhere you are then you don't believe it.

[Mercy]

Originally Posted by Thad

I would be interested to know what Bishop Wagner thinks of him teaching the trinity!!!!!
It might be a sort of different version of the Trinity too- some use wording that can sort of go either way

Huummmm...not really. It's the basic "we believe in God in three persons" wording. My sister attends his church so I have been there many, many times and they list what they believe in the bulletin you get, and the "belief" statement is in there.

He does not belong to any organization, he made his own (all of thier churches are "Perfecting" something....Marvins is just "Perfecting". I think Donnie McClurkin's is "Perfecting Faith", there is another one in Chicago (I think) that is "Perfecting Praise"....) I am not totally sure on the locations and names of the other churches, but I think they have like 5.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

Either you believe it or you don't there is not middle road. If you won't stand up for it everywhere you are then you don't believe it.

Pack of Lies!

There are more things to life and living for God than doctrine. That is the foundation. Foundation is not what you see when you look at a home is it? When you have things in common why should doctrine divide? Doctrine is not a divider at least it should'nt be. IMO

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Pack of Lies!

There are more things to life and living for God than doctrine. That is the foundation. Foundation is not what you see when you look at a home is it? When you have things in common why should doctrine divide? Doctrine is not a divider at least it should'nt be. IMO

If your not built on the right foundation (doctrine in your own opinion) then what else do you have in common? If they are not built on the same foundation as we are then what else is in common?

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;