***JG says he's not going anywhere!!***

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by PastorD

How would they know what is going on in the UPC? You are telling them! I stand by the statement....your attitude stinks. You wouldn't tolerate it from your saints and you know it.

I think your attitude stinks.

People know what is going on. They have come to me telling me what they have heard.

When I first came here my youth p=leader came to me and told me of so thing happening and a certain youth conf. and said"we don't sup[port that and we don't take our youth there." He also informed me of churches in the area that were loose and that this church didn't fellowship.

People know what is going on and for a pastor to think that they don't is foolish. They know. All my trustees have come to me and ask me "what are we going to do?" I tell them we are going to do nothing right now, but be still.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I think your attitude stinks.

People know what is going on. They have come to me telling me what they have heard.

When I first came here my youth p=leader came to me and told me of so thing happening and a certain youth conf. and said"we don't sup[port that and we don't take our youth there." He also informed me of churches in the area that were loose and that this church didn't fellowship.
People know what is going on and for a pastor to think that they don't is foolish. They know. All my trustees have come to me and ask me "what are we going to do?" I tell them we are going to do nothing right now, but be still.

Sounds like you and your church are made for each other.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

As they say - Association leads to Assimilation!

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by CC1

Sounds like you and your church are made for each other.

I would say they fit like a glove!

[Pastor G]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I would say they fit like a glove!

The Lord has brought us a long way... but some just refuse to make the trip... I don't even think the Tulsa group would accept him if they come on here and read his post...

[Dimples]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

I heard with my own ears JG tell another minister that he is NOT planning on leaving the UPC and Tulsa will NOT be a UPCI bashing party. He also said that Tulsa is NOT to announce or plan a new organization but rather to fellowship like-minded ministers.
This will be a big blow to all the ultra-cons that were thinking Tulsa was going to be the launch of a new Conservative Organization.

I heard they were planning on having leadership modeled after the Biblical example with 12 apostles and 70 elders. Guess you can hear just about anything.

[seguidordejesus]

I heard they were going to stand on their heads and draw straws with their toes

[anapko]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

I heard they were going to stand on their heads and draw straws with their toes

LOL...to maintain holiness, the men will do the picking???

[Bullwinkle]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I think your attitude stinks.

People know what is going on. They have come to me telling me what they have heard.

When I first came here my youth p=leader came to me and told me of so thing happening and a certain youth conf. and said"we don't sup[port that and we don't take our youth there." He also informed me of churches in the area that were loose and that this church didn't fellowship.

People know what is going on and for a pastor to think that they don't is foolish. They know. All my trustees have come to me and ask me "what are we going to do?" I tell them we are going to do nothing right now, but be still.

This to me sounds like you are a lackey to the people who are letting you know who you can fellowship. Who's leading who?
Sounds like you better dance to whatever tune they call.

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I think your attitude stinks.

People know what is going on. They have come to me telling me what they have heard.

When I first came here my youth p=leader came to me and told me of so thing happening and a certain youth conf. and said"we don't sup[port that and we don't take our youth there." He also informed me of churches in the area that were loose and that this church didn't fellowship.

People know what is going on and for a pastor to think that they don't is foolish. They know. All my trustees have come to me and ask me "what are we going to do?" I tell them we are going to do nothing right now, but be still.

It is possible you are in the wrong business. Pastoring is decision making. I know if I were as unhappy with the UPC as your many, many posts suggest you are, I would get out. I wouldn't wait for JG, NW or anyone else to tell me where or when to go. Make a decision WH, be a trail-blazer! You are posting of trustee's telling you this and asking you that and a youth leader telling you who your church will fellowship in the area and what youth events you will attend.

The church I pastor knows nothing of this junk going on. No one has ever asked about anything and I am in a metro area with churches all around. I never discuss anything to do with UPC. I didn't come to build an organization. You are creating your own unrest. So, if you, your saints, your trustee's, and your youth leader are that unhappy.......GO!

Just leave that one lady that loves the UPC that you can't "override" behind.