So then.........if the "gospel" is preached in a church where baptism is not taught and in fact is discouraged as not necessary (which is the case in thousands of churches and is being taught in several seminaries in America) in your theology will those that respond to the preaching of the gospel and repent, be saved even though they have never obeyed the commandment of baptism?
Me gots the feelin' I is gonna needs to get into the OT types and shadows...
Seeing as how the way every single last conversion recorded in the Acts of the Apostles isn't good enough witness.
I just wonder if the same folks who are sure the Apostles commanded the unecessary will also reason away the types.
I'm so thankful our Anglican/Catholic neighbour couple allowed us to teach them the word of God and were baptised in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost this summer. They saw it plainly... even though they had been taught something completely different.
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
So then.........if the "gospel" is preached in a church where baptism is not taught and in fact is discouraged as not necessary (which is the case in thousands of churches and is being taught in several seminaries in America) in your theology will those that respond to the preaching of the gospel and repent, be saved even though they have never obeyed the commandment of baptism?
Classic FALSE DILEMMA.
I know that William Penn and many Quakers didn't preach baptism ... I do know that most Protestant churches teach it as necessary for obedience ... not necessary to cause salvation.
Ironically, some OP's have tried to link their heritage to Penn.
I know that William Penn and many Quakers didn't preach baptism ... I do know that most Protestant churches teach it as necessary for obedience ... not necessary to cause salvation.
Ironically, some OP's have tried to link their heritage to Penn.
I prefer to link my heritage to some folks that date a bit further back than that...
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
I know that William Penn and many Quakers didn't preach baptism ... I do know that most Protestant churches teach it as necessary for obedience ... not necessary to cause salvation.
Ironically, some OP's have tried to link their heritage to Penn.
False Dilema? I am not sure why you would make such a statement. It is a very real scenario and one which I would like an answer from your camps viewpoint. Maybe you have not been exposed to a wide spectrum of religious entities (TIC), however, there are many churches who do not teach nor believe in the necessity of baptism as a command or otherwise.
So the question remains......are these "believers" saved without obedience to the command?
False Dilema? I am not sure why you would make such a statement. It is a very real scenario and one which I would like an answer from your camps viewpoint. Maybe you have not been exposed to a wide spectrum of religious entities (TIC), however, there are many churches who do not teach nor believe in the necessity of baptism as a command or otherwise.
So the question remains......are these "believers" saved without obedience to the command?
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