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03-06-2007, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I think that both flesh ... and the principalities of this world play a factor ... but I'm not going to act like the devil is omnipresent or omniscient ...
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Who said he was? I just loathe it when people ignore the idea that anything supernatural could play apart in everyday life. This is false doctrine, and dare I say it? Of ........... oh never mind! 
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03-06-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Who said he was? I just loathe it when people ignore the idea that anything supernatural could play apart in everyday life. This is false doctrine, and dare I say it? Of ........... oh never mind! |
Without a doubt there is spiritual warfare all around us ... and it involves the Kingdom of God and Satan and his legions.
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03-06-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Annie
Sir...you need to calm down- you are going into stroke range. I never said there was NO DEVIL. I never said it was ALWAYS just our flesh...I absolutely believe in satan, I see him at work, trying to cause grief and division on this forum 24/7.
God bless.
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HAHAHA!!!! I am no where close to stroke range. This just bugs the fire out of me though. We are a selfish, self-centered church. We think we operate separate of any outside influences. How vain!?
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03-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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Who said he was? I just loathe it when people ignore the idea that anything supernatural could play apart in everyday life. This is false doctrine, and dare I say it? Of ........... oh never mind! |
I agree with you brother!!!
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03-06-2007, 11:06 AM
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HAHAHA!!!! I am no where close to stroke range. This just bugs the fire out of me though. We are a selfish, self-centered church. We think we operate separate of any outside influences. How vain!?
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Preach it!
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03-06-2007, 11:06 AM
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I heard a pastor say once that he would rather deal with a church full of devils anyday, than a church full of folks that were not killing their flesh daily. He said, "You pray the devil OUT of folk- you can't pray their flesh OUT." *smile*
I completely understand what you are saying PP...and I do agree with you. My kids think I am TOO paranoid when it comes to fighting off the spirits from Hell. I don;t allow secular mags in my home- they are tools that satan will use to bring a spirit of Lust and Pride into my house, I believe...just a sample of how I try to combat Hell, and the works of satan in my life...
I hope we are 'okay'...???? I don't want to offend anyone...
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03-06-2007, 11:07 AM
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*pulls up a chair* Well, I had my mini-stroke yesterday ... it's your turn buddy.
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03-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
HAHAHA!!!! I am no where close to stroke range. This just bugs the fire out of me though. We are a selfish, self-centered church. We think we operate separate of any outside influences. How vain!?
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Brother where in my post did I allude to this??? YOu are adding to my initial post...
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03-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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Humanism at its finest!
You want to minimize our enemy's influence, thereby stating all evil originates in the heart of a man.
Do you deny the existence of the enemy of our soul? Do you deny that he and his ambassodors are at work continually. Do you deny that we are (apart from the Holy Ghost) influenced to say evil things?
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I think my previous posts make it obvious that I'm doing nothing of the sort. LOL!!! You put the key word in this post--"influenced"!
We can be tempted and influenced, but ultimately, according to God's Word:
Jam 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jam 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jam 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-06-2007, 11:11 AM
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Do you people know how many times the devil has used "Christians" to hurt other Christians? How many times we play along with his diabolical schemes to destroy the church?
When someone maliciously attacks another person (especially a fellow-Christian) who is hurting, your very first response should be to fight against them. That is compassion in action.
We act like the devil when we kick a brother or sister who is bleeding, hurting, dazed and befuddled. It makes me soooooooooooooooo mad that the devil can play on the worst part of our humanity like that!
Wake up Church!
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