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Old 11-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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If one cannot come under subjection to a pastor and comply with the standards taught they need to find somewhere else to attend church.
I agree with the overall thought but disagree with the word choice of "subjection". I do not think ANYONE needs to be under "subjection" of any other human.

However, I think people need to be under someone they respect and someone who has earned that right to be respected. I will follow the advice of someone I disagree with if I have respect for them and believe they may know something I don't. However, if all they ever tell me is an endless list of their own personal convictions I am sure as shootin not going to listen to them when it comes to something important and WILL find somewhere else to go.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:18 PM
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If one cannot come under subjection to a pastor and comply with the standards taught they need to find somewhere else to attend church.
Good chance that the saints built and maintain the church.

It's the money contributed by the saints to pay salary's at that church.

Sounds like that Pastor might want to find another church to attend.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:22 PM
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Good chance that the saints built and maintain the church.

It's the money contributed by the saints to pay salary's at that church.

Sounds like that Pastor might want to find another church to attend.
It's the difference between a liberal and conservatives view of government. The conservative looks at government as a necessary evil who should get as little of the citizens income as possible while the liberal looks at EVERYTHING being governments and government then ALLOWING (out of the kindness of their own hearts) the citizens to have a few token pieces of wealth and freedom.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:14 PM
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The local church? I was wondering your opinions. Some saints under a very strict Pastor does not agree with a lot of what he teaches....should they just stay and obey and keep unity? Should they stay but walk their own walk? Or should they go and "good riddance" to them?
What if I agree with my pastor in every area that he preaches, but I want to keep my license in the UPC and he doesn't?
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:40 PM
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My father has always said, if you don't feel like he is preaching truth, and you can't be saved under his ministry, run, don't walk to the church that you feel like you can be saved in.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:05 PM
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The local church? I was wondering your opinions. Some saints under a very strict Pastor does not agree with a lot of what he teaches....should they just stay and obey and keep unity? Should they stay but walk their own walk? Or should they go and "good riddance" to them?
It depends if there is another church in Greeley, CO that you COULD attend!

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Old 11-04-2007, 08:09 PM
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It depends if there is another church in Greeley, CO that you COULD attend!

Our problem used to be that the church I went to was THEE only church you could be saved in. "All the rest were not the best"

Seriously...we were led to believe we just could not leave and go any where else and be saved.

EVERYBODY else was to liberal or backslid.....and NO my pastor was not Whole Hearted.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:09 PM
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It depends. Some "strict" pastors are actually quite tolerant as long they're not getting a bunch of "in your face" type of feedback.

If they cannot peacefully coexist, then they need to go where they can peacefully exist. No "good riddance" is in order. All parties should act as brethren and treat one another with mutual respect.
I will agree with this view.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:13 PM
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What if I agree with my pastor in every area that he preaches, but I want to keep my license in the UPC and he doesn't?
It ought to be that yall can still work together in the kingdom,union card or not.
If he turns in a card ,is he any less in the kingdom of God ?
If yall are likeminded yall should be able to work together across organizational lines.
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If I felt like I couldn't obey what was being preached I would go elsewhere.
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