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Old 10-31-2007, 04:42 PM
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The real problem comes when right relationship is taught, but it's taught as having it to rules and not to the Ruler. Standards are in every facet of our lives not just Church. There is nothing wrong with strong standards as long as we realize they do not save us. Only a right relationship with Jesus can. If we are not producing the fruit of the Spirit, not matter how much foliage we produce we are not fulfilling the Gospel and Doctrine of Christ. If we keep every standard so that an ultra-conservative looks sinful next to us but we do not have the real, awesome, consuming love of Jesus, we are nothing but clang brass and tinkling cymbals. Jesus said that ALL the law and the prophets are fulfilled when we Love God with everything we are and have, and we love our neighbor as we love ourselves. Love is the first attribute in the fruit of the spirit list.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:09 PM
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Steadfast the PAW of Haywood-Tobin-Smith is gone. It no longer exists. Years ago they should have fixed the dam now it is too late. It is certainly sad. Those poor elderly saints trapped in those apostate churches.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:11 PM
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Steadfast the PAW of Haywood-Tobin-Smith is gone. It no longer exists. Years ago they should have fixed the dam now it is too late. It is certainly sad. Those poor elderly saints trapped in those apostate churches.
Curious ... Haywood fellowshipped openly w/ Trinitarians and thought they were saved ... hmm.

Sheeshh ..... APOSTATE CHURCHES ????
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:13 PM
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Curious ... Haywood fellowshipped openly w/ Trinitarians and thought they were saved ... hmm.

Sheeshh ..... APOSTATE CHURCHES ????
Haywood may have did that in the BEGINNING of his conversion but can you show where he CONTINUED to do that?
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:17 PM
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Haywood may have did that in the BEGINNING of his conversion but can you show where he CONTINUED to do that?
His conversion was fairly early during the New Issue

As late as the 1920's he was fellowshipping w/ the PAOC ... a hybrid org.

But thank you for the h.w. assignment .... I will provide you w/ more data.

Furthermore, he, unlike you .... believed they were saved ... was he an apostate?
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:17 PM
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I don't think we should accept the Trinitarian doctrine as correct,nor should we embrace ecumenism.
We must stand firm on the Apostles doctrine, but in a kind way.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:20 PM
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I don't think we should accept the Trinitarian doctrine as correct,nor should we embrace ecumenism.
We must stand firm on the Apostles doctrine, but in a kind way.
In other words, kill the trinnies with kindness????????
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:25 PM
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In other words, kill the trinnies with kindness????????
I don't say kill them,but them treat with kindness,but don't embrace that doctrine.
I think we can have some sense about us but it's still One Lord,One Faith,One Baptism.
The Bible says to earnestly contend for The Faith,that was once delievered unto the saints.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:28 PM
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It boggles the mind that on AFF, we are in the same place as the PAW. We have just about the same split here.

half the people here see no real difference between us and the trinitarians.

I always thought that was a big deal.

I am just blown away.
I stand in agreement with you. I'm blown away in a sad sort of way.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:31 PM
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well, it still boggles my mind. but lets be clear. I am for advertisement on television. but that doesnt mean I have abandoned my senses.

I still beleive that sound doctrine is vital.
We are Apostolics BECAUSE of our doctrine, not in spite of it as some seem to think.
INCREDIBLE statement... what insight! Thanks, Ferd!
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