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Old 10-27-2007, 07:17 PM
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We disagree here, as I believe that God reveals his Word to those that seek understanding by opening their spiritual understanding. Does that mean that every Bozo that comes through has a Word from God? Probably not. But if a man can come in and point to scriptures that point plainly to a specific doctrine, I believe it is worth looking into.
But see how this makes my point? I am simply not ready to dismiss you as a "Bozo".

I think it is very possible we are both seeking understanding.

AND... you that you are looking my way!
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:21 PM
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Bro, Scripture PLAINLY states that Jesus bore our sicknesses on the cross. Now if you want to make this a healing after death in the resurrection, then I believe that you would have to deny that it is available prior to that occurrence. And if you believe that it is available to even one, then it is available to everyone, because we know that God is not a respecter of persons.


I also showed that the fulfillment to Isaiah 53 where it states that Jesus bore our sicknesses was natural healing this side of death according to the sovereign Word in Matt 9
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Question: If it was indeed "the fulfillment" why do we try so hard to rationalize why/why not, it is yet to come in this same way?
First, it was Matt 8. My bad for typing it wrong.


My honest opinion is that we struggle with believing that healing from sickness and disease is available for every individual because we do not see everyone being healed. Even those that we pray for many times die from sickness and disease despite our desperate and passionate prayers. So I believe many judge, and their understanding of Gods Word becomes skewed, by their experience. Thus they adopt a doctrine that is more in line with their experience, than in line with the Word of God.
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