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Old 10-21-2007, 12:28 AM
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I agree with you, but do you not think that even within OP ranks it's possible for people to stick to THEIR traditions even when they are presented with evidence that what they have come to accept as truth is not supported in Scripture. I know that I have personally encountered close-mindedness among OP's who didn't care what the evidence to the contrary was. Something had been repeated for so long it had to be the truth!
TB,

I agree with your observations in this matter. I also agree with pastor Poster about the many things we open our minds to. Unfortunately today, parents are faced with dilemmas that many have not been faced with heretofore: Do I take away my child's innocence by making them aware of the dangers out there, or do I allow them their innocence to be taken by being ignorant of the dangers out there?

I think, because of the times, we must teach, warn, and prepare our children for the inherent evils of this world. We cannot take them out of the public schools, go with them every place they go, and make every decision for them. One day they will have to face the world in all it's dangers/sin...it is best to know the devil and his practices to be armed for the battle.

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Old 10-21-2007, 12:29 AM
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I am not saying it is always wrong to have an open mind. I am saying there are limits to what we should entertain.
I still don't think you understand the point of what CC1 and I have said. For example you used Jezebel as an example...tolerating her. That kinda shows me you don't understand the point. Jezebel is not a truth or a hypothesis. She's a hooker! Being open minded has nothing to do with tolerating her sin. However being open minded MIGHT have be willing to accept the TRUTH that she can repent and be forgiven
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:30 AM
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How many times have you heard the virtues of an open mind extolled?

Seems a lot of folks think an open mind is a great thing. It's as if demanding proof before granting agreement is a bad thing. In fact, if you disagree with any ill-conceived, hair-brained ideas that irrational thinkers pose you are considered "close-minded" and, of course, that is the worst sin imaginable to those with no real core values.

Consider this little truth. If you can't consider the possibility that the idea you are presenting is false, you are the one who is close-minded. Close-minded people are the believers who insist some incredible fantasy is true even when there is a complete lack of evidence to support it.

It is my opinion that those who perpetuate the myth of open-mindedness as a virtue do so hoping that you will fall for false doctrine, wordliness, and outright fiction.

So call me a monolithic skeptic, but I refuse to open my mind to some things. My mind isn't a trash can, and I won't allow anyone to toss garbage in it.

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." Philippians 4:8

Some doctrines are not true, so I refuse to accept them. Some are not genuine in their arguments, so I refuse to listen to them. Some topics are disgusting, so I walk away.

Some thoughts, arguments, and ideas should not be entertained.

Why?

Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Dear all, please read this again.

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It absolutely can be!
No it absolutely can not. That's not what open mindedness means. That's being morally loose. That's being immoral. That's being tolerant to sin. That's being unfaithful to His word. That is not being open minded. CC1 is correct
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:31 AM
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:32 AM
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Once again you confuse terms. Open mindednes is NOT toleration of sin or someone that commits sin. Goodness lol...CC1 you take over
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I still don't think you understand the point of what CC1 and I have said. For example you used Jezebel as an example...tolerating her. That kinda shows me you don't understand the point. Jezebel is not a truth or a hypothesis. She's a hooker! Being open minded has nothing to do with tolerating her sin. However being open minded MIGHT have be willing to accept the TRUTH that she can repent and be forgiven
Praxeas, you talk over people and put words in their mouths. That is frustrating.

I only posted a scripture that pointed to TOLERATION of some things.

Sheesh.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:33 AM
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I still don't think you understand the point of what CC1 and I have said. For example you used Jezebel as an example...tolerating her. That kinda shows me you don't understand the point. Jezebel is not a truth or a hypothesis. She's a hooker! Being open minded has nothing to do with tolerating her sin. However being open minded MIGHT have be willing to accept the TRUTH that she can repent and be forgiven


Jezebel was not a 'hooker'. The spirit of 'Jezebel' is one of intimidation and manipulation but linking her to prostitution because she wore make-up is ridiculous.
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Jezebel was not a 'hooker'. The spirit of 'Jezebel' is one of intimidation and manipulation but linking her to prostitution because she wore make-up is ridiculous.
I thought the reference to Jezebel in Revelations had to do with idolatry.
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Praxeas, you talk over people and put words in their mouths. That is frustrating.

I only posted a scripture that pointed to TOLERATION of some things.

Sheesh.
If it is any consolation you are still one of my favorite and most respected posters!!!
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