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Old 10-17-2007, 04:13 PM
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Raging Rhetoric of my Rumored Retreat from the UPC

Well, well, well... Now I'm sure you folks will have a hard time believing this () but I find it somewhere between halfway humorous and obnoxiously ignorant.

I know that people have been chattering like magpies over who is and who isn't leaving the organization. I've heard at least 4 names mentioned that I know for a FACT have NOT turned in their license and aren't quite sure what to do just yet.

Even so, for those prone to indiscriminate embellishments or given to grossly distorted rumors the truth is pretty much unimportant. I find that a sad statement to the condition of many who claim to be 'Pentecostal'.

However, imagine my surprise when one of my SAINTS came to me last night and said, "Pastor, can I ask you a question?" The question? "I heard from Bro. **** (a neiboring Pastor) that you 'threw down' your card at General Conference after some kind of vote and went out of the UPC. It doesn't much matter to me but I'm just wondering...is that true?"

Needless to say, I suspect that there will be an interesting telephone call to this neighboring Pastor. I'm sure he was only talking to my Saint about such matters (matters, by the way, that I do NOT discuss with my Saints) because he was genuinely 'concerned'. (Please, allow me to delude myself so as to not think that someone would actually be unethical... right...)

Then today I get a call from an official across the nation about preaching a District meeting next year and the man said, "I'm not sure what's going to happen when they find out that you already dropped your license. I was with Bro. ******* last night and he told me you said you had dropped your license." Immediately I answered, "So that's the one who's been lying about me, huh?"

It got so quiet that you could have heard a flea burp!

The more this goes on the more ridiculous it gets! Frankly, I think those talking like 'experts' about these good men pertaining to issues they really don't know the truth about are lying at the least and guilty of defamation of character at best.

Everyone has their limits determining the depth of their committment to any particular organization. While I may not be happy about recent events I still believe the UPC has many things going for it that solidify my resolve to stay in for now.

Much like the man who read his own obituary, "The reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!"

Come on, people... let's grow up and realize that sensationalism draws a quicker crowd but truth usually reveals it's own heroes in the end.

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Old 10-17-2007, 04:20 PM
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Hilarious.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:22 PM
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I think that you make some valid points, but remember it's been ministers who have sharing this stuff, any information that I got I gave a disclaimer and shared the source minus the name, in every case it was a Lic. UPC minister that told me certain things.

I am not UPC, I don't have a dog in the battle, but I do care about an organization that I owe much of my spiritual development to, in the sense that almost all who have contributed greatly to my life have been a part of it.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:26 PM
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Bro. Steady--
I honestly was wondering what you were going to do, but I hadn't asked because I figured it WAS NONE OF MY BUSINESS. LOL!

It's amazing that everyone's business has now suddenly become EVERYONE's BUSINESS! This place has become insane.

Whether you stay or go, you're still the same person you've always been. I think the enemy has to sit back and laugh at the division of what has been a good group. Meanwhile the world is dying and going to hell in a hand-basket.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:31 PM
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I asked Steadfast and he clearly stated his possition here on AFF a few weeks ago!

This issue somehow has turned into a feeding frenzy. With rumors and lies making the rounds, I don't think anybody knows for sure what's going on!
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:34 PM
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:39 PM
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.......It's amazing that everyone's business has now suddenly become EVERYONE's BUSINESS! This place has become insane.... .
Agreed.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:41 PM
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. . . guilty of defamation of character at best. . .
Question: how is it "defamation of character" to say someone is turning in their card, even supposing it's not true? What does this imply about those who really are leaving?
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:43 PM
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Well,
in case anyone was wondering about my status,
and,
in order to quell any rumors...

I am not now nor have I ever been licensed/ordained by the UPC
so this recent action by that organization will not affect me directly.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:45 PM
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Well,
in case anyone was wondering about my status,
and,
in order to quell any rumors...

I am not now nor have I ever been licensed/ordained by the UPC
so this recent action by that organization will not affect me directly.
You sure could join, the UPC is moving in an upward direction.
After talking to KH I feel confident.
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