Missouri Molestation Case

[Amos]

Originally Posted by ILG

Sure!

But no, I would not give him one night. But I would do it in such a fashion as to be compassionate. Not TURN YOURSELF IN OR I WILL!!! But "You have admitted your error and that is great. Now, to truly make it right you need to do the rest of it and make a phone call." And then if he doesn't I would.

In one case I sat down across the table from an individual in his kitchen, pointed to the phone, and said, "You call the sherrif or I will."

He made the call.

[HADDOCK]

Originally Posted by Amos

In one case I sat down across the table from an individual in his kitchen, pointed to the phone, and said, "You call the sherrif or I will."

He made the call.

Well, I would certainly have much more respect and confidence for you in doing that than I do for the pastor that handled this situation.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by HADDOCK

Well, I would certainly have much more respect and confidence for you in doing that than I do for the pastor that handled this situation.

There was no choice. It came down to right or wrong.

Principle always has to take precedence over personal feelings.

[myhaloisintheshop]

Originally Posted by HADDOCK

Well, I would certainly have much more respect and confidence for you in doing that than I do for the pastor that handled this situation.

this situation? The Missouri situation?

[HADDOCK]

Originally Posted by myhaloisintheshop

this situation? The Missouri situation?

Not the Missouri case, the case I referred to where a pastor did not report

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Unfortunately I have had to deal with this issue twice during my pastoral career. I can tell you from my experience, that one should never try to hide this kind of sin. The perpetrator must be reported. The pastor in most states can be subpoenaed, however, he/she is exempt (in most states) from disclosing any information given to him/her under privileged information protection. The law is for the lawless and when a person commits this type of offense they have removed themselves from under the rule of grace. (This does not mean they cannot be restored, but they must face the penalty of their actions.)

I have no problem with him being restored as a saint, but as a minister I do.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Amos

In one case I sat down across the table from an individual in his kitchen, pointed to the phone, and said, "You call the sherrif or I will."

He made the call.

In this case, there had been a supposed admission which is why I was a little softer. If there had no admission, I would probably just make the call and forget the offer.

[HADDOCK]

Originally Posted by ILG

In this case, there had been a supposed admission which is why I was a little softer. If there had no admission, I would probably just make the call and forget the offer.

In the case I referred the step-daughter related the incident and the man related it exactly the same to the pastor.

[HangingOut]

This is very upsetting. We had close ties with his wife just before he started that church. She was such a Godly woman and am assuming she still is.
I have zero tolerance for sicko's that prey on children. He should go to the pen, no detour. He confessed because he was toast and knew it.

[HangingOut]

To add.....this talk about restoration as a saint. That is tough. We are talking about a guy who did this over and over during a period of years. He can be restored in the MO state prison, not some local church. And this "he admitted stuff". He was caught period.