Missouri Molestation Case

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

Originally Posted by ILG

This is not proof of the system....the way things work. You need to make an argument.

wit·ness (wtns)
n.1. a. One who can give a firsthand account of something seen, heard, or experienced
b. One who furnishes evidence.

2. Something that serves as evidence; a sign.
3. Law
a. One who is called on to testify before a court.
b. One who is called on to be present at a transaction in order to attest to what takes place.
c. One who signs one's name to a document for the purpose of attesting to its authenticity.
4. An attestation to a fact, statement, or event; testimony.

[RandyWayne]

wit·ness (wtns)
n.1. a. One who can give a firsthand account of something seen, heard, or experienced
b. One who furnishes evidence.

So that brief philosophical foray into what constitutes a "witness" has been squashed. LOL

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

So that brief philosophical foray into what constitutes a "witness" has been squashed. LOL

In the old days, when people testified and gave a witness to what God had done for them. Wasn't that along the lines of "I was there when it happened and I guess I ought to know."

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Women do it too.

Well, yes and no. The ALARMING statistic is that 1 out of 20 men has been involved in some kind of sexual assault on a minor*; whereas 1 out of 3300 women have been involved in some kind of sexual assault on a minor.

*I am guessing that this statistic would include indecent exposure and possibly men having sex with underage teenagers who know better.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Women do it too.

I know - I feel the same about them.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

She did not say it was an excuse. Nobody here is excusing this act. However it's true these individuals are messed up inside and we should look at how they got that way. In fact we should be very aware of what this might do to the girl involved too.

I've already apologized for my assumption(s). Yes, these individuals are messed up inside, I agree.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Amos

As reprehensible and inexcusable as this sin is, let me just drop a little Scriptural nugget on all you guys bemoaning the infamous GOBN...

If he had not confessed, the church is obligated to reject any accusation against an elder that doesn't come with at least two or three witnesses.

Thank God the man at least had the decency or whatever it was that made him confess...because if he had not, her word against his with no proof would have left the church with no choice but to put aside the accusation.

That isn't GOBN, that is Bible.

Scripture also says to render onto Ceasar what is Ceasars. If a child makes an accuasation against an elder; you best consult an attorney PRONTO. There are various mandatory reporting laws and liability issues inherent to each state. This is all I am going to say about it.

This should not be construed as legal advice but rather the attempt rightly divide Scripture.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Newman

Well, yes and no. The ALARMING statistic is that 1 out of 20 men has been involved in some kind of sexual assault on a minor*; whereas 1 out of 3300 women have been involved in some kind of sexual assault on a minor.

*I am guessing that this statistic would include indecent exposure and possibly men having sex with underage teenagers who know better.

Im also guessing that the statistics aren't as high because we have idiot judges that let the women go because "it's every young man's dream to have sex with an older woman"

[myhaloisintheshop]

Originally Posted by H2H

There has been some outrage about this in the community.

Do you live near there? Just wondering how you have gotten your information

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Im also guessing that the statistics aren't as high because we have idiot judges that let the women go because "it's every young man's dream to have sex with an older woman"

Those teachers who have been getting off lightly need to be made examples of!