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08-25-2007, 11:48 PM
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I HEAR THIS LOUD AND CLEAR. BUT, is it not true then - all those many sermons I have heard - that God can, will and wants to fully heal and restore those who have experienced such pain and suffering??
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Yes, but it's hard work. It isn't for the faint-of-heart, or the pretentious. The devil knows that if he takes out the shepherd, the sheep will be scattered.
The investment of 20 years of pastoral work has had its balance zeroed in one day, through one weakness.
Pray for the church members to have wisdom. The hypocrisy of teachers of biblical principles does not invalidate those principles. It simply demonstrates human frailty.
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08-25-2007, 11:53 PM
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Abused. Abuser. Abused. Absurer. It continues.
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The staggering mathematical compounding potential of this vile human meme is the reason, I believe, people find it so reprehensible, in such an innate, almost gutteral, way. It spreads like a time-delayed plague.
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"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
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08-25-2007, 11:56 PM
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I do want to chime in about this talk about the good ole boy network and sweeping things under the rug.
I do believe that has been the case regarding some prominent Pentecostal preachers sons regarding adultery BUT I do not know of a single case where child molestation was covered up and I have a hard time believing that would happen. I am not sayinbg it has not happened but I don't know if it (I can think of 3 major UPC PK's with the "woman" problem though that was covered up and swept very neatly under the rug. Recently in my circles (exUPC) I have heard of the same thing happening. A church being told that they should ignore or look past their pastor's sexual sin, forgive him, and still respect him, keep him in the pulpit, etc. Blows my mind if it is true!
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08-25-2007, 11:59 PM
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wise guy, eh?
I'm typing one-handed this evening as I'm holding the baby so the missus can have a bath.
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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08-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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wise guy, eh?
I'm typing one-handed this evening as I'm holding the baby so the missus can have a bath.
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Under the circumstances...you're exonerated! 
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08-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Recently in my circles (exUPC) I have heard of the same thing happening. A church being told that they should ignore or look past their pastor's sexual sin, forgive him, and still respect him, keep him in the pulpit, etc. Blows my mind if it is true!
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Oh, yeah, that's fine, never mind what the Bible says!!! 
It's not called sloppy agape for nothing.
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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08-26-2007, 12:05 AM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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wise guy, eh?
I'm typing one-handed this evening as I'm holding the baby so the missus can have a bath.
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Under the circumstances...you're exonerated! |
On second thought...what's the baby doing up this late? 
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08-26-2007, 12:14 AM
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On second thought...what's the baby doing up this late?
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He's asleep. But I'm not taking the risk of putting him down until his mama emerges refreshed and ready to feed him, should events warrant.  
Now that you mention the hour, I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't War and Peace she's reading in there! 
I NEED some rack time! 
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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08-26-2007, 12:28 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Your wish is my command
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08-26-2007, 12:40 AM
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Look! We made a new funny!
It's so kind of you to offer to help!
When you feed him, start with the left side first. 
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"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
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