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07-30-2007, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
That's right.
However, it appears that some of the ideas being espoused borders on being half and half.  |
Can I get a what what???!!!! Holla.
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
That's right.
However, it appears that some of the ideas being espoused borders on being half and half. |
Hmmm. Dan says Im wrong, you say Im right.... interesting
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07-30-2007, 09:10 PM
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Oh...BTW, the DF view states that the Flesh of God, from Heaven was pure in the sense that it was not subject to the fall of man.
I have not seen those claiming a "half and half" view state that. It seems they are simply saying ONLY that God created human, male, DNA (actually sperm and blood in Epleys case)
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-30-2007, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I still don't understand....usually it takes chromosomes from a man and a woman to produce a human being...women do not carry both to be able to do this themselves. Humans are not asexual
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KR explains all of that using scripture and science to substantiate his doctrine. Don't tempt me to go dig out that tape. I'm too lazy.
Man, I wish I could remember exactly how he brought it out but when he got to the expected (by Abraham) resurrection of Isaac, I thought I would jump right out of my chair.
Get the tape. It will bless you.
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07-30-2007, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
not at all Dan. They have not beaten around the bush. They have said verbatim that Jesus had NO humanity from Mary. That His humanity was completely 100% from heaven.
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but who cares what foolishness they or some that you talked to think ...
I would think that an ardent Water and Spirit guy like you would move pass all that as if were eschatology... and accept them in the fold as they believe in Acts 2:38 salvation ... Jesus is God and that he died for their sins ...
Yet I see a definite pattern in some OPs to disqualify all who those don't see it quite the way they do.
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07-30-2007, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
KR explains all of that using scripture and science to substantiate his doctrine. Don't tempt me to go dig out that tape. I'm too lazy.
Man, I wish I could remember exactly how he brought it out but when he got to the expected (by Abraham) resurrection of Isaac, I thought I would jump right out of my chair.
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Well honestly I would like to hear the science part to see if it is accurate.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-30-2007, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
but who cares what foolishness they or some that you talked to think ...
I would think that an ardent Water and Spirit guy like you would move pass all that as if were eschatology... and accept them in the fold as they believe in Acts 2:38 salvation ... Jesus is God and that he died for their sins ...
Yet I see a definite pattern in some OPs to disqualify all those don't see it quite the way they do. |
Even BS agreed with me Dan. It's not a matter of disqualifying. It's a matter of definition. Now, if BS and myself are wrong, then by all means post the definition of Divine flesh and insist we have to all believe thats' what they all believe.
BTW Dan, Im asking you again, stop putting words in my mouth or accusing my motives that you know nothing about. What you are doing is lying. Im getting a little tired of it. I did not state they were not in the fold nor did I disquality them
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-30-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Even BS agreed with me Dan. It's not a matter of disqualifying. It's a matter of definition. Now, if BS and myself are wrong, then by all means post the definition of Divine flesh and insist we have to all believe thats' what they all believe.
BTW Dan, Im asking you again, stop putting words in my mouth or accusing my motives that you know nothing about. What you are doing is lying. Im getting a little tired of it. I did not state they were not in the fold nor did I disquality them
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Prax .. go take a chill pill ... for rizzle.
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07-30-2007, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Even BS agreed with me Dan. It's not a matter of disqualifying. It's a matter of definition. Now, if BS and myself are wrong, then by all means post the definition of Divine flesh and insist we have to all believe thats' what they all believe.
BTW Dan, Im asking you again, stop putting words in my mouth or accusing my motives that you know nothing about. What you are doing is lying. Im getting a little tired of it. I did not state they were not in the fold nor did I disquality them
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Prax...
Surely you see where DA is coming from.
It is a known fact that the genesis of the blood is in the male sperm and cannot produce a child until that sperm penetrates the egg. So, if the seed is manufactured by the Holy Ghost, surely the HG did not produce fallen or Adamic seed. The HG would have produced pure seed from which the blood is derived.
I see his objections.
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07-30-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Prax...
Surely you see where DA is coming from.
It is a known fact that the genesis of the blood is in the male sperm and cannot produce a child until that sperm penetrates the egg. So, if the seed is manufactured by the Holy Ghost, surely the HG did not produce fallen or Adamic seed. The HG would have produced pure seed from which the blood is derived.
I see his objections.
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He's not arguing with me on that and I was not arguing with him on that. He is arguing what I said Divine Flesh advocates believe and you actually agreed with me when I posted what they believe. lol
I haven't even tried to have a discussion with Dan on that issue. If anyone wants to discuss that I am all for it. But you are confusing what Dan was saying to me and about. I was defining what HF advocates believe, from their own mouths.....you agreed and Dan disagreed...on the definition of WHAT HF advocates believe.
Another topic.
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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