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07-30-2007, 12:19 PM
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you have every right to say what you want, and all i am saying is most of the time i didnt have enough experience to say much when i was young, and now that i am old, i find silence golden bro phil, dt love you guys
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07-30-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
stop putting words in my mouth, and leave my posts alone mal, dont ever interpret what i say, that is all i have to say, let it go, dt
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Interpretation of posts is, ironically enough, something that takes place on discussion forums.... are you implying you should be immune from any criticism to your posts???
you made a valid point regarding the technology issue not being addressed by the UPC, which I agreed with.... I also stated my disagreement with your "head in sand" comment toward the older-minister "majority" which has periodically voted against the usage of TV....
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07-30-2007, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
Interpretation of posts is, ironically enough, something that takes place on discussion forums.... are you implying you should be immune from any criticism to your posts???
you made a valid point regarding the technology issue not being addressed by the UPC, which I agreed with.... I also stated my disagreement with your "head in sand" comment toward the older-minister "majority" which has periodically voted against the usage of TV....
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i dont have a prob with that, i never said that older ministers were like that, all were not, but i have just as much right to my opinion, as anyone else does, however i want you to leave my posts alone, there has been problems before, i am requesting that, please do so, dt
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07-30-2007, 01:05 PM
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If Res 4 does not pass, there will be many who will continue to do what they want anyway. What may begin to formulate is the push for "enforcement" of the manual. If that begins to happen, then the defections will start to commence.
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07-30-2007, 01:06 PM
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If Res 4 does not pass, there will be many who will continue to do what they want anyway. What may begin to formulate is the push for "enforcement" of the manual. If that begins to happen, then the defections will start to commence.
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that is so true, my brother, that will make a big deal out of it for sure, if it doesnt pass, dt
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07-30-2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
If Res 4 does not pass, there will be many who will continue to do what they want anyway. What may begin to formulate is the push for "enforcement" of the manual. If that begins to happen, then the defections will start to commence.
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Exactly.
This is what I meant when I said "they see the handwriting on the wall".
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07-30-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
If Res 4 does not pass, there will be many who will continue to do what they want anyway. What may begin to formulate is the push for "enforcement" of the manual. If that begins to happen, then the defections will start to commence.
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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
that is so true, my brother, that will make a big deal out of it for sure, if it doesnt pass, dt
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Exactly.
This is what I meant when I said "they see the handwriting on the wall".
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So much for integrity in the ministry. This, to me, speaks of rebellion. A preacher wants his saints to line up with his "platform standards" but will "do what he wants", disregarding the rest of the constituency.
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07-30-2007, 01:14 PM
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So much for integrity in the ministry. This, to me, speaks of rebellion. A preacher wants his saints to line up with his "platform standards" but will "do what he wants", disregarding the rest of the constituency.
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for the record cb i go to a upc church, i do not have a license, and i listen to my pastor, when i had a license i kept the manual, but i knew many who didnt, and still dont, not my problem, dt 
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07-30-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
If Res 4 does not pass, there will be many who will continue to do what they want anyway. What may begin to formulate is the push for "enforcement" of the manual. If that begins to happen, then the defections will start to commence.
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I would hope that men of conscience would just leave rather than violate the rules until they were forced out.
I know there is a feeling that with the AS and things like TV that the org. is meddling beyond what it should but two wrongs don't make one right.
If men can't abide by the rules of their org. then they should leave.
I happen to think that a very viable PAJC / 3 stepper doctrinally oriented new org. could probably succeed quite well with a very limited agenda.
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07-30-2007, 01:19 PM
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Bro. Y, I'll never forget...
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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
i dont have a prob with that, i never said that older ministers were like that, all were not, but i have just as much right to my opinion, as anyone else does, however i want you to leave my posts alone, there has been problems before, i am requesting that, please do so, dt
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you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, as I am mine....
As a poster, I agree and disagree with many topics I see fit, regardless of who posts it.... I might agree with people some topics, I may not regarding others....
anything that may have taken place in the past is not a cloud you'll be able to hang over my head.... if you ever have a problem with my posting or anyone else's for that matter.... just click the "Report Post" button and several AFF staffers will review it....
keep your chin up.... it'll be alright.... 
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"Rules without relationship lead to rebellion." Dr. James Dobson
"You don't need a license to preach, or teach, or win souls." RonB
"In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)
Never tell a young person that anything cannot be done. God may have been waiting centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing. ~ John Andrew Holmes
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