*d-day: September 28th, 2007 - Conservatives Will Take The Hill*

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

that is the whole point we live in the information age, get used to it, and dont try to act like if we ignore it , it will dissappear, i was at gc when bro tenny took the mike and said dont worry about tv , the telephone had caused more trouble than any thing he had seen, the whole place laughed, it was true, then, lol,dt

trust me, i'm very comfortable living in the information age....

That's the whole point.... is that there have been current leaders who have not addressed this emerging technology as is it began blending together with TV.... perhaps some have been afraid to speak out, feeling that their single voice is but one among many or that there could be possible repercussions....

it doesn't mean that you should bash people and imply they're ignorant because they have a different conviction than yours though.... there have been many old-time preachers that saw TV as a bad influence, long before the internet hit is big with the common people.... it doesn't mean that lacked oversight or leadership capability.... it just means that times have changed....

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I didn't mean that the way it came out. There are great men and women within the ALJC. My point was supposed to be that they are not as dogmatic about standards and such as the UPCI bunch.

Oh, well that makes sense. Cool.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

i remember sitting by my dad at gc general session in st louis about 86 or so, some kid got up and said something dumb, my dad turned to me and said dont ever do that, then bro kilgore got up and said men ought to have some corn in the crib before they start telling others, we all laughed, i never forgot that, i am almost 50 and i am still quiet, good practice i think, dt

Being young doesn't = DUMB or NO WISDOM either. I know some "elders" who aren't too bright.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Malvaro

trust me, i'm very comfortable living in the information age....

That's the whole point.... is that there have been current leaders who have not addressed this emerging technology as is it began blending together with TV.... perhaps some have been afraid to speak out, feeling that their single voice is but one among many or that there could be possible repercussions....

it doesn't mean that you should bash people and imply they're ignorant because they have a different conviction than yours though.... there have been many old-time preachers that saw TV as a bad influence, long before the internet hit is big with the common people.... it doesn't mean that lacked oversight or leadership capability.... it just means that times have changed....

stop putting words in my mouth, and leave my posts alone mal, dont ever interpret what i say, that is all i have to say, let it go, dt

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by philjones

TB,

Good post!

I have felt for some time that one of the most dangerous spirits, if not THE most dangerous spirit, that wars against the church is the spirit of discontent coupled with carnal selfishness. It is revealed in a broad array of symptoms that are often singled out and identified as unique spirits when the root is actually selfish discontent! It destroys homes and marriages and church families. At times, it ruins preachers reputations and destroys ethical behavior among the ministry and the saints. It leads to those things you expressed. Discontent is very very dangerous to the souls of men and the church!

Excellent post, Phil!

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Being young doesn't = DUMB or NO WISDOM either. I know some "elders" who aren't too bright.

i didtn say all were did i, i said he was and he was, even bro kilgore made a comment, enough said, i know all kinds of people who arent very bright, dotn read into what i am saying, just read what i said, my dad was right, dt

[Felicity]

Excellent post TB!

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Excellent post, Phil!

Thank you!

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

i didtn say all were did i, i said he was and he was, even bro kilgore made a comment, enough said, i know all kinds of people who arent very bright, dotn read into what i am saying, just read what i said, my dad was right, dt

I'm not reading into anything. Just saying the truth is all.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Has anyone noticed the discontent that permeates the church? No matter what church or organization there seems to be a constant complaining and criticizing going on. Is this simply indicative of the last days and the unthankfulness that would characterize the last days? In the world everyone is in pursuit of more, or something different. I think the spirit of the world in the church is contributing to the disunity within the church. Everyone seems to want something more dazzling, or change for the sake of change it seems. This is leading people away from the simplicity of the gospel and faith based worship into "power in hair doctrines" and emotion driven worship that is more like the hype one would experience at a rock concert than in a deep faith expressive worship service.

I fear you are right, Elder...what do we do at this juncture?!