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07-23-2007, 09:02 PM
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Really? Apparently you missed NLYP's post to Brother Epley. If there is one thing I can say about Brother Epley is that he truly does believe the things he believes. They are convictions for him. He said a true man of God should teach against the wearing of jewelry. I believe he said it because he truly believes it. But NLYP got offended.
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That kind of statement should be offensive to anyone who doesn't share SE's views. It's about as arrogant a statement as one can make IMO. In other words, if a person doesn't teach against wearing a wedding ring he is not a true man of God according to SE.
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07-23-2007, 09:05 PM
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Hang on just a minute. How can you on one hand say you are willing to remove it for conviction's sake and then turn around and suggest that not wearing jewelry is a man made tradition?
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I said i would remove it "if"God convicted me of it, but i see it as a man made tradition.I dont see anything biblically against a wedding ring.
A tradition just like the hair,pants ect.
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07-23-2007, 09:07 PM
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Sooooo, people's personal convictions are "ridiculous issues" to you? Sounds to me like you aren't much different than those who feel it's their way or no way at all, except on the other end of the spectrum.
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Personal convictions are very important, but they should be left as "personal" rather than someone trying to bring condemnation on others who don't have that personal conviction yet enjoy a wonderful relationship with God.
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07-23-2007, 10:07 PM
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Where is the teaching for a wedding ring in the scriptures?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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07-23-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Where is the teaching for a wedding ring in the scriptures?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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Hehehe! Brother, I have grown to really enjoy it when I find myself in agreement with my ultra conservative brethren on an issue. I know it throws some of y'all for a loop, seeing as how so many people around here think I am firmly in the liberal camp because of my objections to mandating dress codes from the pulpit. You may be surprised to find out how many things I actually agree with y'all on.
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07-23-2007, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed
That kind of statement should be offensive to anyone who doesn't share SE's views. It's about as arrogant a statement as one can make IMO. In other words, if a person doesn't teach against wearing a wedding ring he is not a true man of God according to SE.
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Nah. Not really, TB. Not if you have been around long enough to get to know Brother Epley. He's kind of like that really mean dog you were always afraid of when you were a child. He'd bark and growl, making you think he was going to eat you alive, straining against that chain to get to you. That is, until you finally got up enough courage to walk up to him and pet him. That same mean, growling, scary dog turned into as nice a friend as you could find and never did bite. BTW, I am NOT saying Brother Epley is a dog! (Just in case. Ya never know around here!)
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07-23-2007, 10:46 PM
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The most important words in 1Peter 3:2 are "...let it not be that outward adorning... He is not saying that there should not be that adorning, but rather that this is not the adorning a woman should be relying on to distinguish herself.
In 1Timothy 2:8-15 the most important words to note are in verse 8 where Paul begins with " I will therefore ...." Paul had his own views and expressed those personal views as "I will", not God commands or requires. How many pastors share his views on women? His views were shaped by his culture as our's are by our culture.
Are you who are relying on Paul's words here to support your position for not wearing rings, able to say that you agree with all of Paul's teaching throughout his NT writings?
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07-23-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tech
I said i would remove it "if"God convicted me of it, but i see it as a man made tradition.I dont see anything biblically against a wedding ring.
A tradition just like the hair,pants ect.
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Actually, I think there's some Bible to back this no jewelry thing. Brother Epley made a good point about it being tolerated by God in the OT and them always taking it off whenever they were trying to get back right with Him. The principle is there, Brother. I will agree it's not a spelled out thou shalt not type of thing, but the principle is still there.
I see the hair, pants, etc. thing to be the right principle, but misapplied.
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07-23-2007, 10:48 PM
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I haven't read through this thread, but I just want to say that I just got my diamond reset and it is a lot of BLING. I love it and am thrilled that my husband wanted me to have it. I can't imagine not wearing a wedding ring!
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07-23-2007, 10:51 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed
Personal convictions are very important, but they should be left as "personal" rather than someone trying to bring condemnation on others who don't have that personal conviction yet enjoy a wonderful relationship with God.
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True, but for Brother Epley his personal convictions are that we shouldn't wear jewelry and preachers should preach against it. Maybe I am willing to tolerate a little more from him because I have grown to respect him some, which is more than I can say for others. Anyway, it doesn't really bother me as much when he says stuff like that. I don't agree with him that a preacher isn't a real man of God if he doesn't preach against jewelry, but I can accept that he sees it that way.
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