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Old 07-12-2007, 03:15 AM
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I said, "I don't know" as in "I don't know if I can agree with what you are saying", which really means, "I don't agree, but I'll just be the nice girl that I am."

Still studying means I'm being polite and pretending that I didn't shut down on your post. Ain't I nice, until you - pressed me?

I'll ignore the part where you called me an *** and pass that off as youthful ignorance.



My problem with the K&D is this:
  • The immediate design of this prohibition was not to prevent licentiousness, or to oppose idolatrous practices

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  • but to maintain the sanctity of that distinction of the sexes which was established by the creation of man and woman, and in relation to which Israel was not to sin.
Now, Prax, in all practicality and for the sake of just plain old common sense - WHY does the scripture even address a man even attempting to put on a woman's clothing?

In their time period it was part of the pagan rituals of sacrifice to don the clothes of the opposite sex and have licentious sexual activities.

Now, if that was not even happening, WHY would the Word even speak of a man donning a woman's clothing - just for fun or what?

The distinction of sexes - my goodness - that is just ridiculous for me to comprehend. If the Word is worried about a man wearing a woman's clothing then - hello - something is rotten in Denmark - just logically.

It isn't speaking of gender distinction. It is speaking of existing and living the part of the opposite sex - the abomination.
I didn't call you any names. Second, you referred to all these people as Lutheran boys as though that were some sort of trump card that automatically means they are wrong. That's as absurd a claim as when Atheist evolutionists dismiss any scientists argument for Intelligent Design because the scientist is Christian.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:54 AM
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You saw what I saw at family camp last week, didn't you???
Shhh, we're not supposed to talk about LadyRev and her pantsuit.
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
I said, "I don't know" as in "I don't know if I can agree with what you are saying", which really means, "I don't agree, but I'll just be the nice girl that I am."

Still studying means I'm being polite and pretending that I didn't shut down on your post. Ain't I nice, until you - pressed me?

I'll ignore the part where you called me an *** and pass that off as youthful ignorance.



My problem with the K&D is this:
  • The immediate design of this prohibition was not to prevent licentiousness, or to oppose idolatrous practices

  • and
  • but to maintain the sanctity of that distinction of the sexes which was established by the creation of man and woman, and in relation to which Israel was not to sin.

Now, Prax, in all practicality and for the sake of just plain old common sense - WHY does the scripture even address a man even attempting to put on a woman's clothing?

In their time period it was part of the pagan rituals of sacrifice to don the clothes of the opposite sex and have licentious sexual activities.

Now, if that was not even happening, WHY would the Word even speak of a man donning a woman's clothing - just for fun or what?

The distinction of sexes - my goodness - that is just ridiculous for me to comprehend. If the Word is worried about a man wearing a woman's clothing then - hello - something is rotten in Denmark - just logically.

It isn't speaking of gender distinction. It is speaking of existing and living the part of the opposite sex - the abomination.

Good points. Never thought of it that way.
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Shhh, we're not supposed to talk about LadyRev and her pantsuit.
BAD!!!


LOL!!!

Too funny though!
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:06 AM
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That is why I like gender distinction.To take on the role of a man is wrong according to the bible but then the world we live in has blurred the lines so
bad we have to keep coming back to the culture and time of the bible to
try to define those roles.
I hate that anyone was made to feel bad about what they were wearing
in a church service.At least she showed up.I had someone do this to a person
I was working with and it caused a horrible family issue that took years
to right.Someone stood in the pulpit,not my pastor,but a visitor who was
a friend of one of the saints and was elderly and said,I thank God our women
don't put on pantsuits." Well my dad and his girlfriend were visiting and she
had on a pants suit outfit.It was about all she had to wear.He was so hurt
that she would not come back as it embarrassed her badly.My pastor could
do nothing because it was already out of the mans BIG FAT mouth.Sorry
but I really hate what that man said.This lady got alzheimers and never
understood salvation.Thankfully my dad got saved later.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:39 AM
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BAD!!!


LOL!!!

Too funny though!
now come on guys we need to let the lady rev be, she just wants to be comfortable and not worry about modesty when she worships, dt
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:42 AM
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That is why I like gender distinction.To take on the role of a man is wrong according to the bible but then the world we live in has blurred the lines so
bad we have to keep coming back to the culture and time of the bible to
try to define those roles.
I hate that anyone was made to feel bad about what they were wearing
in a church service.At least she showed up.I had someone do this to a person
I was working with and it caused a horrible family issue that took years
to right.Someone stood in the pulpit,not my pastor,but a visitor who was
a friend of one of the saints and was elderly and said,I thank God our women
don't put on pantsuits." Well my dad and his girlfriend were visiting and she
had on a pants suit outfit.It was about all she had to wear.He was so hurt
that she would not come back as it embarrassed her badly.My pastor could
do nothing because it was already out of the mans BIG FAT mouth.Sorry
but I really hate what that man said.This lady got alzheimers and never
understood salvation.Thankfully my dad got saved later.
this is the problem with mouthing off without thinking thru what we are saying and the consequences, god will hold us accountable for our words that hurt and disparrage others even if we dont ourselves,dt
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:03 AM
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You saw what I saw at family camp last week, didn't you???

OK, seriously if it wasn't LadyRev (just kidding LadyRev) then what was it?
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:21 AM
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this is the problem with mouthing off without thinking thru what we are saying and the consequences, god will hold us accountable for our words that hurt and disparrage others even if we dont ourselves,dt
I had prayed and fasted and witnessed like crazy to get my dad and his girl friend to even come to church and it was on Easter Sunday.I had them over for lunch
and they wanted to come with us to church.It was a record day for our family after
years of desiring my dad to get saved.It took many more years after they were RUN off.That how I look at it when someone does something so dumb.They are
running off people.They are helping the devil.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:30 AM
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I had prayed and fasted and witnessed like crazy to get my dad and his girl friend to even come to church and it was on Easter Sunday.I had them over for lunch
and they wanted to come with us to church.It was a record day for our family after
years of desiring my dad to get saved.It took many more years after they were RUN off.That how I look at it when someone does something so dumb.They are
running off people.They are helping the devil.
yes they are and in there ignorance they cant even see it, no matter how these preachers or anybody justify there zeal, they are just dumb and dont even have enough brains to realize Jesus loves people and so should we, and love doesnt crush there spirits and hearts so he cant reach them. i will pray for you , dt
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