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Xmas the short thread
Xmas is a Roman Catholic holy day, holy week, even extending into the following month. It was brought into the Pentecostal movement through Protestantism. No where in the Bible (New Testament especially) had anyone taught or practiced a celebration for the birth of Christ. Through the Bible alone one couldn't come up with a Xmas observance. Certainly no pine tree laced with jewelry, lighted or non lighted. No Mariah Carey singing about her selfishness and possessiveness. 
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12-23-2024, 08:31 AM
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Re: Xmas the short thread
Winter Festivals in Ancient Cultures
1. Saturnalia (Roman): Honored Saturn, the Roman god of agriculture and time. Celebrated from December 17 to 23 with feasting, gift-giving, and merriment.
2. Yule (Germanic): A midwinter festival celebrated by ancient Germanic peoples. Involved the lighting of fires and the exchange of gifts.
3. Sol Invictus (Roman): A festival dedicated to the Roman sun god, celebrated on December 25.
Pagan Traditions Incorporated into Xmas
1. Evergreen Trees: Ancient cultures, such as the Egyptians and Chinese, used evergreen trees to symbolize life and fertility during winter.
2. Holly and Ivy: In ancient Celtic and Roman traditions, holly and ivy were considered sacred plants, symbolizing eternal life and fertility.
3. Mistletoe: The ancient Druids and Celts believed mistletoe had magical powers, and it was used in rituals to promote fertility and protection.
4. Yule Log: The tradition of burning a Yule Log originated with ancient Germanic peoples, who believed it had purifying and protective powers.
The Establishment of Xmas:
*Constantine and the Establishment of Xmas: In 336 CE, Emperor Constantine, declared December 25 to be a day of celebration in honor of Jesus' birth.
*Syncretism and the Blending of Traditions: As Christianity spread throughout Europe, "Christian" leaders incorporated existing pagan traditions and symbols into the celebration of Xmas, making it more appealing and accessible to pagan populations.
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12-23-2024, 09:48 AM
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Re: Xmas the short thread
Let the debate begin!
Wasn’t there a prophecy that Jesus was going to return before winter? The guy over in Tennessee? We talked about it.
Anyway. Merry Christmas everyone!!!
And wishing you all a happy and prosperous new year,
Let the feast begin. (I’m always looking for any excuse to feast.)
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Re: Xmas the short thread
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Re: Xmas the short thread
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Winter Festivals in Ancient Cultures
1. Saturnalia (Roman): Honored Saturn, the Roman god of agriculture and time. Celebrated from December 17 to 23 with feasting, gift-giving, and merriment.
2. Yule (Germanic): A midwinter festival celebrated by ancient Germanic peoples. Involved the lighting of fires and the exchange of gifts.
3. Sol Invictus (Roman): A festival dedicated to the Roman sun god, celebrated on December 25.
Pagan Traditions Incorporated into Xmas
1. Evergreen Trees: Ancient cultures, such as the Egyptians and Chinese, used evergreen trees to symbolize life and fertility during winter.
2. Holly and Ivy: In ancient Celtic and Roman traditions, holly and ivy were considered sacred plants, symbolizing eternal life and fertility.
3. Mistletoe: The ancient Druids and Celts believed mistletoe had magical powers, and it was used in rituals to promote fertility and protection.
4. Yule Log: The tradition of burning a Yule Log originated with ancient Germanic peoples, who believed it had purifying and protective powers.
The Establishment of Xmas:
*Constantine and the Establishment of Xmas: In 336 CE, Emperor Constantine, declared December 25 to be a day of celebration in honor of Jesus' birth.
*Syncretism and the Blending of Traditions: As Christianity spread throughout Europe, "Christian" leaders incorporated existing pagan traditions and symbols into the celebration of Xmas, making it more appealing and accessible to pagan populations.
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It's always funny.
How so many people want to get all Biblical on other topics. Yet, the whole deck the halls mumbo jumbo gets a pass. It's Catholic, Western Roman and Eastern Roman church mass. 
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Re: Xmas the short thread
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Let the debate begin!
Wasn’t there a prophecy that Jesus was going to return before winter? The guy over in Tennessee? We talked about it.
Anyway. Merry Christmas everyone!!!
And wishing you all a happy and prosperous new year,
Let the feast begin. (I’m always looking for any excuse to feast.)
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Hey and tithes is a good excuse to support the church. 
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12-23-2024, 09:07 PM
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Re: Xmas the short thread
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Hey and tithes is a good excuse to support the church. |
I’d like everyone to know that I wasn’t the one who brought up the tithe scam.
And to think that I mentioned wisdom and EB in the same paragraph.
Lord forgive me.
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