Defend your Faith - Page 15

H2H · #**141** 06-19-2007, 08:34 PM

Man I can't believe the grief I get over Dante.... I may trade him in for Socrates....

The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance --Socrates

Kutless · #**142** 06-20-2007, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revrandy

this is what Paul had to battle with... the Jews would not accept the Gentiles unless they followed Jewish Laws... Eating... Circumcision... and so forth...

And until the Romans......the reading of the Torah in the synagogue......which Gentiles could not understand......which would make it an unknown tongue.

Paul spoke in tongues more than all of us...but he was educated. Educated in Hebrew. But lets not forget the very next verse in which it sounds like he would rather not do it in church.

vs.19 Yet in the church I had rather speak 5 words with my understanding, that by my voice I might reach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Chewy mentioned yesterday about people in the mic that rattle off tongues. It would seem by this set of scripture that that isn't biblical?

OP_Carl · #**143** 06-20-2007, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutless

......Chewy mentioned yesterday about people in the mic that rattle off tongues. It would seem by this set of scripture that that isn't biblical?

I would say it is rarely helpful. Nobody is edified. Occasionally a foreigner in the midst of a congregation reports that they heard somebody who didn't know the language say something in their native language.

Kutless · #**144** 06-20-2007, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

I would say it is rarely helpful. Nobody is edified. Occasionally a foreigner in the midst of a congregation reports that they heard somebody who didn't know the language say something in their native language.

do you have documented proof of that?

Not that I don't believe you.....but why wouldn't we document stuff like that to dispel critics?

Sherri · #**145** 06-20-2007, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutless

do you have documented proof of that?

Not that I don't believe you.....but why wouldn't we document stuff like that to dispel critics?

When my inlaws were missionaries in the jungles of Africa, there were a couple of times that people getting the Holy Ghost spoke in English rather than their tribal dialect. But I guess it was never documented on paper back then.

H2H · #**146** 06-20-2007, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutless

do you have documented proof of that?

Not that I don't believe you.....but why wouldn't we document stuff like that to dispel critics?

I have heard the stories.... never had it verified on tape.

H2H · #**147** 06-20-2007, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutless

And until the Romans......the reading of the Torah in the synagogue......which Gentiles could not understand......which would make it an unknown tongue.

Paul spoke in tongues more than all of us...but he was educated. Educated in Hebrew. But lets not forget the very next verse in which it sounds like he would rather not do it in church.

vs.19 Yet in the church I had rather speak 5 words with my understanding, that by my voice I might reach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Chewy mentioned yesterday about people in the mic that rattle off tongues. It would seem by this set of scripture that that isn't biblical?

I always thought this was strange... I have never heard 1 Cor. addressed in preaching with proper context. It is always cherry picking the verses... hmmm...

Steve Epley · #**148** 06-20-2007, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri

When my inlaws were missionaries in the jungles of Africa, there were a couple of times that people getting the Holy Ghost spoke in English rather than their tribal dialect. But I guess it was never documented on paper back then.

I too have heard those testimonies from many missionaries.

Kutless · #**149** 06-20-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I too have heard those testimonies from many missionaries.

I am so glad to hear these reports from you folks.

Kutless · #**150** 06-20-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutless

And until the Romans......the reading of the Torah in the synagogue......which Gentiles could not understand......which would make it an unknown tongue.

Paul spoke in tongues more than all of us...but he was educated. Educated in Hebrew. But lets not forget the very next verse in which it sounds like he would rather not do it in church.

vs.19 Yet in the church I had rather speak 5 words with my understanding, that by my voice I might reach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Chewy mentioned yesterday about people in the mic that rattle off tongues. It would seem by this set of scripture that that isn't biblical?

bump for REVRAN