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View Poll Results: Will a person who has obeyed Acts 2:38 but continues to lie and steal be saved?
Yes, He will be saved. He's obeyed Acts 2:38 0 0%
Yes, God is a gracious God and all of us have sinned since we were saved. 0 0%
No, he must repent or he will be lost. 25 86.21%
Maybe, but he's taking his chances. 4 13.79%
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:39 PM
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Will A Person Who Has Obeyed Acts 2:38 but lies and steals go to hell?

.........YES OR NO....Maybe I did not place my choices in the best terms, but I think you should be able to understand them.

This hypothetical man has obeyed Acts 2:38 and tells others to obey it but he is a thief and a liar and remains nonrepentant.
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:47 PM
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.........YES OR NO?

He's obeyed Acts 2:38 and tells others to obey it but he is a thief and a liar and remains nonrepentant.
Wow! I was just thinking about starting a thread about habitual liars in the church...You know the kind, they can be good at lying. They manipulate others and try to make themselves "bigger" than what they really are

This verse comes to mind
2Ti 3:6 For of these are those who creep into houses and lead captive silly women loaded with sins, led away with different kinds of lusts,
2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers will go forward to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

Rom 16:17 And I exhort you, brothers, to watch those making divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them.
Rom 16:18 For they who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches they deceive the hearts of the simple.
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Did you VOTE in my poll?.....I don't think it makes the names public. This is the first time I have attempted to do a poll. Please vote!!

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Wow! I was just thinking about starting a thread about habitual liars in the church...You know the kind, they can be good at lying. They manipulate others and try to make themselves "bigger" than what they really are

This verse comes to mind
2Ti 3:6 For of these are those who creep into houses and lead captive silly women loaded with sins, led away with different kinds of lusts,
2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers will go forward to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

Rom 16:17 And I exhort you, brothers, to watch those making divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them.
Rom 16:18 For they who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches they deceive the hearts of the simple.
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.........YES OR NO....Maybe I did not place my choices in the best terms, but I think you should be able to understand them.

This hypothetical man has obeyed Acts 2:38 and tells others to obey it but he is a thief and a liar and remains nonrepentant.
You're kidding right?
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:50 PM
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I voted. In fact I might add that such a person might not have ever been saved to begin with if they are unrepented of what they do and feel no remorse
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Must repent and turn form sin.
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You're kidding right?
No, I am not.........Throughout my years of attending church, I have seen people accept liars and thieves and give them accolades. Did you vote? Please vote!!
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I voted. In fact I might add that such a person might not have ever been saved to begin with if they are unrepented of what they do and feel no remorse
How can he never be saved if he received the Holy Ghost and was baptized in Jesus name for the REMISSION of his sins??
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Must repent and turn form sin.
If you haven't voted, please do!...I would like to see if this could be unanimous, but by saying that I may elicit someone to vote otherwise.
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How can he never be saved if he received the Holy Ghost and was baptized in Jesus name for the REMISSION of his sins??
Maybe he never really received the Holy Ghost...if the person is a habitual liar he might have faked it
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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