Marriage Rejuvenation?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, can we peacefully and logically disagree without you trying to paint me as a depraved pervert? Are you willing to see that although I have a more open approach, my intentions are not diabolical? Can you acknowledge that I was only trying to break the ice and maybe give some ideas to couples who are struggling with lack of passion in their marriages? I'm not the monster you depict me as being.

Aquila, I'm sorry you took my post that way, please forgive me if I offended you. I certainly did not intend to paint you as a depraved pervert or some kind of monster.

I just wish couples would keep private things private. We share too much these days, IMO.

I don't really want to see a pic of the breakfast or dinner you had, either.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by n david

Call me a prude, but I don't believe men should be discussing sex with other men (nor women with other women). I don't want to know what turns another man's wife on. I don't want to know his exploits, what he does or how/where he's done it. And I'm sure not going to talk about mine. I don't even share that information with my best friend, and he knows pretty much everything about me.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Aquila

For the most part I agree with you. However, what was said here by myself and others was posted in a section of the forum that titled, "Marriage Matters For discussion of Marital issues". I didn't post anything intimate in "The Fellowship Hall". If you guys are so worried about the subject matter, why have a "Marriage Matters For discussion of Marital issues" section of the forum? Is it only to discuss what nights we play Scrabble, Bridge, and Monopoly? What television shows we have to suffer through that our spouses like? Or maybe it is to discuss our chores list? Marital issues by nature can be mature topics. It could include subjects like arguing, fights, a spouse's hidden drinking problem, sex, sexual dysfunctions, questions relating to frequency, impotence, recovering from affairs, etc. Other Christian forums have marriage sections that are on fire with questions, people seeking help, suggestions, advice, about all kinds of things. In a way, this forum's marriage section is DEAD. It's rarely posted to at all. Why are other Christians on other Christian forums so willing to be open books and tackle the mature topics... but Apostolics get squeamish about the whole thing? Y'all need to lighten up, open up, get real, make it plain, don't be so afraid of what someone else might say or think, and have reasonable measures to keep minors out of the topic. Even Facebook has an age requirement. Or... why even have a Marriage Section? Oh, it's the bridge night thing. No problem. Now back to our regularly scheduled program of Mayberry. I think you know what I'm saying.

I do know that Hotels and Motels report that X-rated movie rentals are the same regardless if the guest is there for a secular or church conference. So, maybe those other "Christian" forums are "on fire" on this topic for reasons that are not so savory??

Originally Posted by Aquila

That sounds very powerful. I'd like to be in one of your classes sometime if you're ever in South Western Ohio.

Only God knows...

Originally Posted by Aquila

I can respect that. And I also think that we're actually not so far apart on this issue as you might think. Please. Take a step back with me and try to see what I'm trying to say in the next few things I write to you. Try to refrain from judging and just try to understand what I'm trying to say. What if someone else doesn't entirely share your approach to the issue? For example, I'm relatively anonymous. Few, if anyone here, knows my real name or my last name. That allows me some degree of freedom to be more frank. Now, I assure you, I wouldn't share those kinds of things in a seminar or anything attached to my real name on the world wide web either. I posted those things in a Marriage Rejuvenation thread. I didn't post them in The Fellowship Hall. The question was asked, "Any great ideas from anyone on how us married folks can keep the home fires burning?" Okay, that can go almost anywhere if people post with frankness and honesty. I'm thinking about those couples whose "home fires" (their passion) is dead. Their marriage bed cold. The intimacy gone. I didn't mean any harm by sharing a few intimate ideas based on our private lives. I meant to offer some ideas to heat things up for couples who might be trapped under ice. That was my intention.

I get that. I would share such things in a third person rather than first. Like I posted:

Originally Posted by TK Burk

It's one thing to talk about intimacy within a marital relationship. It quite another to tell everyone about sexual conquests. The former is a teaching on intimate principles. The latter is a vulgar sharing of fleshly lusts, which is more than likely shared to excite the teller.

Originally Posted by Aquila

You know that rabbinical schools typically didn't allow students to read the Song of Songs unless their students were married or over 30 years of age. My point was that while yes, there are spiritual types and shadows throughout the SoS, they are depicted in ways that would shock the modern reader if they were written in our lingo. And in the context, it's not impure or unholy just because it's brazenly erotic.

SoS also just made it into the biblical canon due to its message. However, inspired of God is still inspired of God. Many believe it references God and His bride. Others that it speaks of a man and woman's love to each other. I believe both can be seen. I will add that of all the books of the Bible, SoS proves a biblical marital relationship consists only between a man and a woman.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Please notice that I didn't attack you personally anywhere in my post above. I only shared my thoughts with you openly and honestly. What gives man?

I did not attack you either. You spoke of the pure and the defiled, and within the context of this discussion I believe it is clear how I used my response.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, we're married. And I'm believing the latter house will be greater than the former house.

I've already had a number of people tell me I'm in sin for remarrying. So, if you're going to go down that road, I just wanted you to know I'm already well informed.

No, I'm not going down that road. Not my business.

This, however, is the road I intend to travel:

On page 2, post #20, the one that is bothersome to many of the people posting in this thread, I see that it is dated 07-14-2016.

Here's the link:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...9&postcount=20

However, in this thread:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...4&postcount=26

you make specific mention of your "fiance". Not wife, but fiance. This post is dated 09-02-2016.

Please reconcile the dates and the data you have provided. In a post dated from July of last year, you mention or refer to several different acts or actions of a clearly sexual nature with your "lady love". Then, in a post dated from September of last year, which is two months after the July 2016 post, you mention that the woman in your life is not a wife, but a fiance.

Point blank:

Were you married to your "lady love" before you made the post from July of last year, even though she was merely your fiance as of two months later?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Aquila what's up with that?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Absolutely!

There are things a gentleman should not discuss, namely physical intimacy with his wife.

Most likely why the guy fell out with his original wife. It is all about making the woman feel secure. You are the husband, and you are the provider. If she doesn't feel security, then that's the husband's fault. This joker finds every opportunity to shock the forum, whether in his ultra liberal political views, his religious stance (I say that loosely) to his relationship with his girlfriend. We are just here to amuse Chris. Nothing more, he loves being the guy dancing on the table with a lampshade on his head. He most likely is the invisible man in his real world setting. Because you KNOW, none of his circus routine would last 15 minutes in real time face to face. He wouldn't be able to cut and paste, and therefore he would run out of material.

Originally Posted by n david

This isn't a locker room. Nor is it a frat house or wherever else worldly men gather to boast of their conquests and sexual prowess.

Yet, that isn't exactly what this joker is doing. He comes up with the most liberal flaketard foolishness. I mean, seriously, this isn't just about him posting about his fantasies. It is a total package, he is so sideways on so many levels. It is no longer funny.

Originally Posted by n david

I know a Pastor and wife (UPC) who would conduct an annual young adult / married couples "bible study" series. It was done during the weeknight bible study and usually during the summer, when attendance was lower due to vacations, etc. I heard about it before attending it. I was shocked at what was discussed, even with it being divided with men in one area and women in another. I'm not exaggerating when I say much of what was discussed was pornographic in detail. It's no wonder that church has had several affairs over the years!

No doubt, because the individuals lose whatever little Holy Ghost they once had. No one ever stood up in the group and pointed out that the weaklings running the show were actually perverts. Tar and feather always sets a man free.

Originally Posted by n david

Call me a prude,

My brother, over the years I always admire your normalcy and saneness.
While we may not always agree, I appreciate sanity. A voice crying in the Childreness is so much needed in this time.

Originally Posted by n david

but I don't believe men should be discussing sex with other men (nor women with other women). I don't want to know what turns another man's wife on. I don't want to know his exploits, what he does or how/where he's done it. And I'm sure not going to talk about mine. I don't even share that information with my best friend, and he knows pretty much everything about me.

Excellent, and thank you

Aquila go to the woodshed and learn what this meaneth.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I did not attack you either. You spoke of the pure and the defiled, and within the context of this discussion I believe it is clear how I used my response.

Elder, the guy is an ultra liberal.

Playing the victim is one of his tools in his bag of tricks.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

I don't really want to see a pic of the breakfast or dinner you had, either.

Thank God for that.

I think Aquila is down at Planet Fitness with towel draped around his neck waiting for the guy with the calzone to get off the machine. He isn't waiting for the use of the equipment. But for the calzone.

Originally Posted by n david

Aquila, I'm sorry you took my post that way, please forgive me if I offended you. I certainly did not intend to paint you as a depraved pervert or some kind of monster.

WARNING:

ULTRA LIBERAL UP AHEAD.

WILL COWER AND PLAY VICTIM AT ANY GIVEN CHANCE

Originally Posted by n david

I just wish couples would keep private things private. We share too much these days, IMO.

Amen, that isn't hard to figure out.

Chris, knows this, but chooses to use his magnifying glass to burn the ants. Instead of observe them and use the tool properly.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Hey, I can understand if you felt some posts were over the top. I get that. And in retrospect, maybe they were. But you're really going way out there with it. Again, to the point of being very personal in your attacks. Can't you address an issue without trying to personally tear the person you disagree with apart?

Bro, addressing the issue?

Chris, I just see you as a Prophet of Baal.

Oh, while you play victim here chew on this

Oh please, you're just a grease monkey, who pooped his pants when spanked, embraced the thug life, and never had the guts to serve his country.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=428

Get over it. Every kid gets spanked.

Bro, you lost your right to victimhood a long time ago.

Sad thing is this, you actually still believe that your circus act is still believable. it isn't, you are here for one reason. That is to be so over the top that you can laugh as you freak out other members of this forum.

You need to take your own advise and seek JESUS in prayer, fasting, and getting "soaked?" in the word.

Chris, the clock is ticking dude.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Well, I could perform some searches on this forum regarding questions relating to the marriage bed, and I'm certain you'll see many threads started (not even from me) on questions regarding "m", "os", etc.

You guys are going to run with it like that's what I'm wanting. No, I'm seeing that there are a number of rather mature subjects discussed from polygamy to other things. I think you guys have a good point. Perhaps restricting the marriage thread to those profiles registered as being 18 or older would not only protect those who are under age, but offer a degree of freedom for those with perhaps more serious questions that are of an intimate nature.

It's not a "bad" idea. IF... you're really that concerned.

Do you still use curse words, Chris?