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Old 05-15-2017, 10:47 AM
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Re: Liberal Bloomberg on Single Payer

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That's debatable.

What I do know is that if enough people lose coverage under Trumpcare, there will be a national outcry for Single-Payer.

Trust me, it's coming.
Let's see how California does first. Fair enough? Or do your communist tendencies to control everybody overwhelm all objectivity?
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:28 AM
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Let's see how California does first. Fair enough? Or do your communist tendencies to control everybody overwhelm all objectivity?
Your answer on that is in his views on climate change. Impose taxes, regulations, and undue burdens first, then if it doesn't pan out, oh well.
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:41 PM
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Let's see how California does first. Fair enough? Or do your communist tendencies to control everybody overwhelm all objectivity?
Eh, I'd be interested in seeing how California might manage things. I know that Single Payer isn't perfect. However, if Trumpcare leaves millions suffering... I think the cry for Single Payer will take off rather quickly.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:39 PM
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Eh, I'd be interested in seeing how California might manage things. I know that Single Payer isn't perfect. However, if Trumpcare leaves millions suffering... I think the cry for Single Payer will take off rather quickly.
Then millions more will suffer.
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:05 PM
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Then millions more will suffer.
I doubt it.

The conservative mind is small. They don't dream big or think big. That's why most conservative voters barely make over minimum wage, are not college graduates, and tend to file for more government support than Democrats.

If America can design the bomb, put a man on the moon, have the worlds most preeminent space program, and have the world's most powerful military, and the world's strongest economy... when we dedicate ourselves to universal healthcare, it will be better than any other. Obamacare was a healthcare mandate. Now, if Trump dismantles it and millions suffer, our options are a two tier system (like that found in Denmark or a single payer system like that found in Norway. I prefer single payer because it's easier to move from single payer to another system than it is to adopt one of the other systems and move to single payer.
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:19 PM
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I doubt it.

The conservative mind is small. They don't dream big or think big. That's why most conservative voters barely make over minimum wage, are not college graduates, and tend to file for more government support than Democrats.

If America can design the bomb, put a man on the moon, have the worlds most preeminent space program, and have the world's most powerful military, and the world's strongest economy... when we dedicate ourselves to universal healthcare, it will be better than any other. Obamacare was a healthcare mandate. Now, if Trump dismantles it and millions suffer, our options are a two tier system (like that found in Denmark or a single payer system like that found in Norway. I prefer single payer because it's easier to move from single payer to another system than it is to adopt one of the other systems and move to single payer.

The establishment here does not operate like the disciplined leaders of Scandinavian countries. Any system here will be designed to fail. It won't be about providing healthcare. Common sense will be thrown out the window. If you can't see that you are blind.
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:24 PM
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The establishment here does not operate like the disciplined leaders of Scandinavian countries.
You're right, we'd do far better if the Republicans quit breaking things and saying, "Hey look, the government failed again." lol

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Any system here will be designed to fail. It won't be about providing healthcare. Common sense will be thrown out the window. If you can't see that you are blind.
No, I'm an optimist. You see, once it's in place, failure will leave the President and Congress on serious outs with the voters. Something as serious as healthcare will be something that comes with a price if you mess it up. Trump and the GOP Congress is about to discover this if they allow millions to lose the coverage they need.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:23 PM
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You're right, we'd do far better if the Republicans quit breaking things and saying, "Hey look, the government failed again." lol



No, I'm an optimist. You see, once it's in place, failure will leave the President and Congress on serious outs with the voters. Something as serious as healthcare will be something that comes with a price if you mess it up. Trump and the GOP Congress is about to discover this if they allow millions to lose the coverage they need.
Trump was elected to dump Obamacare and lots of other liberal programs. The left and RINOS were on "serious outs" with the voters and got booted. Has it mattered? No.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:28 PM
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Trump was elected to dump Obamacare and lots of other liberal programs. The left and RINOS were on "serious outs" with the voters and got booted. Has it mattered? No.
Most of Trump voters didn't know the difference between the ACA and Obamacare when polled. lol
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:45 PM
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Most of Trump voters didn't know the difference between the ACA and Obamacare when polled. lol
Uhm, there isn't a difference between ACA (Affordable Care Act) and obamacare. It's the same legislation.
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