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Old 08-13-2016, 08:40 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

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Beloved, they have no scripture for that.

They accuse the Church of condemning, and thereby would condemn
the Church! They don't realize that when we (the Church) speak, we
are in fact fulfilling scripture: "For God sent not his Son into the world
to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."

And so so we preach NOT to condemn, but that they may be saved.
But because they don't REALLY believe, they fail to discern between the
conviction of the Holy Spirit; and the condemnation, that
is of the devil.

Nevertheless, we must preach the gospel that saves.
i'm curious if you can envision any system in which any of your doctrines might be called into question? Is it possible that there is a scenario in which Christ's Word could be taken more spiritually, and might infringe upon some tenet that you hold dear? Say, is it possible that there will be those considered 'accepted' who...i dunno...never got baptized? pick one of these; i have no desire to put you on the defensive.

Because while i dont think this describes Azusa, i wonder if this UD thing is being embraced by the OP, and one could make a case that sin seems to be the focus now, rather than ______.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:24 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

you might be following a trajectory that is plain to others, in it's similarities to where the Political leg is going, heil. What is this Universal Dominion? Why has that come up right now. what s with the coyness? i want to talk about this UD thing
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Old 08-15-2016, 03:03 PM
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At because of the times, the general sup. Kenneth haney said" Fathers encourage your sons to preach the gospel, we are getting no applications from men under the age of 45" .



I stand by my statement ITS DYING ! SANDRA
She always had a way of letting everyone know she was bitter.

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you might be following a trajectory that is plain to others, in it's similarities to where the Political leg is going, heil. What is this Universal Dominion? Why has that come up right now. what s with the coyness? i want to talk about this UD thing
You are obnoxious.
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Old 08-15-2016, 03:34 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

if there is no truth in that, then yes, i am just obnoxious.
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Old 08-15-2016, 03:42 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

Good thing the church will never die. Jesus is the only name of the church.
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:30 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

amen--but churches die all the time, and we are given Scripture to assess the state of a member of the Body that cannot be dismissed imo
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amen--but churches die all the time, and we are given Scripture to assess the state of a member of the Body that cannot be dismissed imo
Are Muslims and Hindus in the Body?
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

Good fruit comes from good trees, not from labels that convey no meaningful information. Are Christians who teach judgement and death in the Body, is the relevant question for us imo. More to the point there is 'are your borders increasing?' and the other indicators Scripture gives us to take for signs.
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Good fruit comes from good trees, not from labels that convey no meaningful information. Are Christians who teach judgement and death in the Body, is the relevant question for us imo. More to the point there is 'are your borders increasing?' and the other indicators Scripture gives us to take for signs.
Therefore Atheists who display what YOU say is good fruit are in the Body.

Too bad refuse to prove any of this with any sort of exegesis.
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