Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delegate

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I definitely googled it.
His "statistics" on Cruz being the nominee are as bad as they are on the 12 million dems voting for Trump.
Here is what he says about his "findings"

"After a lot of work I have finished my math calculations. A simple effort will show that from 2000 to 2008 there was a change in Primary votes of 10-12 million. Ten million more Republicans and 12 million less Democrats. But this is child's play. Getting deeper, examining States with close polling prior to the registration requirements, States with a clear winner in polls prior to registration change requirements, and you can set patterns.

Using 2000 and 2008 as baselines, the conclusion was staggering. Trump only got about 3.3 million Republican Votes. The rest are Democrats, approximately 12 million of them."

This is what he bases his "findings" on.

PO - for part of my career I was a Six Sigma Blackbelt.
That means I was heavily trained in statistical analysis.
What he did was in no way a valid statistical measurement.
It is his opinion.
It is similar to someone trying to average percentages and reach a conclusion.
He would be laughed out of any conference if he tried to present this as a paper.

As stated, we KNOW there were MANY Democrats who went for the crossover in the OPEN PRIMARIES voting in the weakest candidate against Hillary. The candidate with higher unfavorables than she has. She needed that, badly, and with someone having just as bad of a reputation.

I am not saying that the delegate revolt will work, but it does need to be in place. It needs to be made part of the rules.

So, if Trump wins in July, you can have your photo taken alongside his Playboy mounted frames on his office wall. Maybe Jerry Falwell, Jr and his wife will take another one with you. Those pesky principles always stare out at us at the worst possible moments.

[aegsm76]

And if Hillary wins you can have her picture mounted on your wall.
Maybe the one where she was at the pride parades, this weekend!

Good to see you back on here to aggravate!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

And if Hillary wins you can have her picture mounted on your wall.
Maybe the one where she was at the pride parades, this weekend!

Good to see you back on here to aggravate!

Hey, Doodles! If Hillary wins it will be because of the Trump supporters, not us who still stand on Conservative principles and know our Constitution. What's more, we know how to pronounce the books of the Bible.

Get Jerry Falwell and his wife to sign their photo! Or when you get yours taken, stand next to Jerry's wife - help them out.

[Originalist]

What a bunch of wacko-bird nonsense! This makes me embarrassed to have ever been a Republican.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

When a candidate continues to turn sour, not getting better, the delegates should be unbound to vote their conscience. If he wins, then so be it, but the delegates, nonetheless, should not be bound.

This is a great Q & A with Kendal Unruh.

Every candidate since Reagan has been sour and none of you lunatics ever suggested this kind of action. Good luck. The people will lynch you.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

What a bunch of wacko-bird nonsense! This makes me embarrassed to have ever been a Republican.

THIS kind of stuff is why I dumped the Repukecrat party. It's all about maintaining power at all costs, cloaked behind shrieks of 'principles! principles!' all the while selling every principle they have to the lowest bidder like a cheap ho.

And then they croak out 'if Hillary wins it will be all your fault!'

Thankfully, nobody's really listening to this garbage anymore. Last gasps of a suffocating, dying, modern-day Whig party.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

THIS kind of stuff is why I dumped the Repukecrat party. It's all about maintaining power at all costs, cloaked behind shrieks of 'principles! principles!' all the while selling every principle they have to the lowest bidder like a cheap ho.

And then they croak out 'if Hillary wins it will be all your fault!'

Thankfully, nobody's really listening to this garbage anymore. Last gasps of a suffocating, dying, modern-day Whig party.

Yes but from the ashes of the Whigs rose the Republicans. What monster will rise from the ashes of the GOP?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Yes but from the ashes of the Whigs rose the Republicans. What monster will rise from the ashes of the GOP?

Well, let's see... we have masses - MILLIONS - of angry Americans, with pro-nationalist tendencies, who are looking at Trump as the 'last hope' (the only reason the GOP hasn't found itself shoulder to shoulder with the Green Party and the Libertarian Party). They are essentially, largely, a mass of dissafected dems, republicans, and independents (including lots of 'never before voted' people). The one thing they all have in common is they are disaffected, and fed up with the system.

Now, regardless of what happens this election, the GOP is pretty much on its way out with the public. The dems can maintain a 'base' because they literally buy their base with freebies. The repubs can maintain a base among certain commercial interests because they can also buy that base with freebies (gov't contracts, etc) but they can't really buy Joe Voter because Joe Voter doesn't necessarily want EBT cards and gov't contracts.

So, I foresee the GOP establishment hacks moving their offices either to the democrat party (where they truly belong) or else - once again - they will try to co-opt the Disaffected movement (like they did with the TEA Party). Not sure how it will turn out, because the 'dirt people' are mighty angry and sharpening their pitchforks already...

Historically, in such situations, the Establishment usually engineers a major war or a major catastrophe to scare the sheep back into line...

[Pressing-On]

Of course our two party system is corrupt and broken. For heaven's sake, we all know that. Why don't you look at Trump and see why he is not the answer.

Why does he get to lie and it is okay with you guys? Why does he get to lie about about his campaign finances, bankrolling his own businesses and it is okay with you guys? Why does he get to flip-flop on everything he says, within hours, and it is okay with you guys?

He is rude, insulting and acts like a 12-year old.

Stop focusing on the broken system so much and start looking at how this man in conning you. Good grief.

And it is the RIGHT thing to do to #FreeTheDelegates, which is the subject of this thread.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Of course our two party system is corrupt and broken. For heaven's sake, we all know that. Why don't you look at Trump and see why he is not the answer.

Why does he get to lie and it is okay with you guys? Why does he get to lie about about his campaign finances, bankrolling his own businesses and it is okay with you guys? Why does he get to flip-flop on everything he says, within hours, and it is okay with you guys?

He is rude, insulting and acts like a 12-year old.

Stop focusing on the broken system so much and start looking at how this man in conning you. Good grief.

And it is the RIGHT thing to do to #FreeTheDelegates, which is the subject of this thread.

Even with every alleged flaw you mentioned in Trump, I am not going to condone freeing the delegates to put Romney, Jeb or Kasich in as the nominee because that is exactly what they will do. If you think Cruz will win you are the one who is being conned.