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Old 03-24-2016, 12:45 PM
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Re: Where's The Muslim Outrage?

You guys wanted muslim outrage. Got it. Then proceed to tell them they arent real Muslims. We forget the the rights we have in this country. Go ahead and speak out against some of these terrorists groups in other places. Lets see where that gets you and how long you live.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:48 PM
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So the questions that needs to be answered is, are the majority of Muslims that are peaceful following Islam or not? The GOD of the bible would be proud of some of the things that Muhammad is accused of doing. Whats the difference in the things Muhammad did and the leaders of the Israelite's during their conquest of the Promised Land? Do I need to list those things?
Yes you need to document your assertions.

FTR the God has the right to judge the world - He created it.

He judged the world with a flood.
He judged the world by the confusion of language.
He judged Sodom.

In each of these cases He directly judged them.
During the Promised Land conquest He did not allow Israel in until the time for judgment had come:
(Gen 15:16 KJV) But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

BTW This was LIMITED to a small area of land.
It was also an indirect judgment of God by using Israel as the agency of judgment.
Moses was from God - the one true God.


Muhammad desired to impose it upon the entire world.
Muhammad is NOT from God.
His actions are NOT judgments from God.
He was a pedophile cult leader that demanded blind and absolute obedience. No one was or is allowed to question him.
He sanctioned rape.
He sanctioned lying.
He sanctioned murder.
he imposed his religion on others.
He sanctioned spousal abuse.
He sanctioned polygamy.
He set himself up as above the Islamic law.
he said he was sinless - perfect.
He setup an earthly kingdom.

The list goes on...

Have a nice day. After all I heard that the Jews blew up an airport in Brussels... Oh wait that was Muslims following the teachings of Muhammad.


http://pulse.ng/gist/sharia-law-brut...id4843236.html

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...fghan-migrant/

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...exploit-chaos/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...d-isis-7618221

http://sputniknews.com/world/2016032...haria-law.html

http://www.newsweek.com/british-stud...streets-440242

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/be...d-were-ignored



BUDAKA, Uganda (Morning Star News) — Threats from hard-line Muslims and the rape of her 13-year-old daughter forced a Christian mother and her five children to flee their village in eastern Uganda last week, sources said.
http://christiannews.net/2016/03/23/...-threats-rape/


http://newsweekme.com/daesh-claims-k...son-to-others/


Australian Muslims may resort to violence if headscarf laws not changed, SA imam says.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-2...d-imam/7268326


the list goes on and on and on TODAY not thousands of years AGO.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:51 PM
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So that makes all the genocide, enslaving, and rape of the OT ok? Again, study the Quran. Become a scholar. Study the culture of the time. The language. Then tell me and other what the truth of Islam is.
God vs Muhammed. Do you really have to debate or question that?
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The truth according to who? Who are you to tell them the "TRUTH" of their religion? Like I said, Muhammad sounds like he falls right in line with Joshua, Saul, David ect...
FALSE moral equivalency.

The "truth" is found in their own holy writings.
Which of the men that you mentioned married and consummated that marriage to a 9 year old girl?

Which one argued they were the only prophet of God?
Which one sanctioned lying?
Which one sanctioned adultery?
Which one sanctioned rape?
Which one sanctioned assassinations?
Which one imposed their religion upon the whole world and told their followers to fight until it is established completely?
Which one claimed to be sinless?

The list goes on and on. Islamic religious writings confirm Muhammad did all these things. THAT is truth.
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So that makes all the genocide, enslaving, and rape of the OT ok? Again, study the Quran. Become a scholar. Study the culture of the time. The language. Then tell me and other what the truth of Islam is.
ISIS is Islam...
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God vs Muhammed. Do you really have to debate or question that?
Im not. Im just saying the same merits and criteria with which you are judging Islam could also be used against us.

Jesus didnt come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34 I believe.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:59 PM
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You guys wanted muslim outrage. Got it. Then proceed to tell them they arent real Muslims. We forget the the rights we have in this country. Go ahead and speak out against some of these terrorists groups in other places. Lets see where that gets you and how long you live.
Like I said, those who speak out against the violence should be applauded and supported. However, they cannot disassociate Islam from violence. Muhammad was a very bloody man who wanted the world to bow before him, not just Arabia but the entire world.

The Koran and Hadith's are as much or more of a political ideology as it is a religion. No organization has the right to subvert the Constitution by masquerading as a religion.
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Im not. Im just saying the same merits and criteria with which you are judging Islam could also be used against us.

Jesus didnt come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34 I believe.
He also said that His kingdom was NOT of this world.
He also told Peter to put up his sword.
He also said that to live by the sword is to die by the sword.
He also said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The sword you mention then, in context, is a spiritual sword not an earthly one.
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He also said that His kingdom was NOT of this world.
He also told Peter to put up his sword.
He also said that to live by the sword is to die by the sword.
He also said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The sword you mention then, in context, is a spiritual sword not an earthly one.
Nope. No its not.
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Re: Where's The Muslim Outrage?

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Islam and its false prophet, the fact is Muslim religious leaders and heads of state have condemned the attacks in Brussels.

Just like they did on 9-11 (even Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood condemned those).

As to whether or not they are sincere, or whether or not they speak for ALL Muslims, that's another story.
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